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| Quote: Mintball "So in essence, 5% profit on revenues is not enough and hence the company need to try to completely Tescoify the world, with the bullying and everything else that enables this to be done.
It has nothing to do with individuals and/or communities; with health or sustainability.
And therein lies the problem.'"
It's a PLC - profit is a shareholder requirement, otherwise there'd be no dividend. It's economics.
Of course, you believe that it's nothing to do with individuals / communities / health / sustainability. Perhaps a read of the PLCs' Corporate Responsibility information may help. Details herehttps://www.tescoplc.com/index.asp?pageid
Headlines from this (for 12/13):-
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* Industry-leading performance in reducing CO2 emissions.
* 9.3m people involved in some form of activity via Tesco (eg. Race For Life / Tesco FA Football Skills / Aerobics, etc). Every evening on the car park at our Bangkok Head Office, I watch around 200 staff and customers doing aerobics to blaring music! This is replicated at every large-format store in the country.
* Staff and customer fundraising last year was >£13 million. The Charity of the Year was Cancer Research, and I believe that this is the largest single-business 12 month fundraising effort ever.
* At least 1% of pre-tax profits donated to charity in 12/13, in addition to the £13m to the Charity of the Year. £74.5m.
* This years Charity of the Year is Diabetes UK - we're after £15m!!
.....but, don't let the positives blur the negatives, hey?
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "... * This years Charity of the Year is Diabetes UK - we're after £15m!!'"
Pity so much of the sugar-laden, processed crap produced/retailed by Tesco and its like are helping cause it in the first place, eh?
Quote: Man in Madrid ".....but, don't let the positives blur the negatives, hey?'"
Indeed. The homogenisation of high streets, the bullying of producers and councils, the absurdity of the chains of production (see horsemeat again), the driving down of choice and out of business small, independents, the treatment of staff (including a refusal to pay a living wage to many).
Let's stick those to one side and discuss the filthy lucre that the shareholders get and the sops to an idea of responsibility.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "
Headlines from this (for 12/13)
So they're wonderful for giving money to charities from staff & customer funding and then they avoid paying stamp duty on land purchases? Is that how it works? Maybe I could stop paying Income Tax and make a donation to the charity of my choice instead?
I also notice that they swing between fixed sums (£13m) and percentages (1% of pre-tax profit).
If they are so transparent and benevolent, then why the need for Cheshunt Properties LLP? or other shadow subsidiaries in Luxembourg, BVI etc?
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| Quote: cod'ead "So they're wonderful for giving money to charities from staff & customer funding and then they avoid paying stamp duty on land purchases? Is that how it works? Maybe I could stop paying Income Tax and make a donation to the charity of my choice instead?'"
Up to you, if that's what you want to do.
Quote: cod'ead "I also notice that they swing between fixed sums (£13m) and percentages (1% of pre-tax profit).'"
The fixed sum was an amount that staff and employees raised via fundraising activities - the target was (I think) £10m. The 1% of pre-tax profit was a donation, and something quite different.
Quote: cod'ead "If they are so transparent and benevolent, then why the need for Cheshunt Properties LLP? or other shadow subsidiaries in Luxembourg, BVI etc?'" I didn't say they were transparent, I merely pointed out that, like with most things, there's always a different point of view. Regarding benevolence, I suppose it's a very subjective one to answer - I, personally, believe that the fundraising effort was great (it certainly brought many staff and customers together, and some friends / colleagues had fantastic experiences raising money whilst climbing to Mt Everest base camp / walking the Inca trail / etc). And to donate £74m, irrespective of what the annual profit was, should be applauded. But, as I say, that's my subjective opinion.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "Cod’ead, I’m going to go all corporate on you again here!
What has any of that got to do with the example of Walkers under the ownership of Pepsico?
Do you consider the mechanisms outlined regarding how Pepsico have reduced the corporation tax paid by Walkers in the UK to (presumably) zero as they are now making a loss acceptable?
It is after all a legal way to increase profit and return for shareholders so does that trump all else and if it does, doesn't that mean the system is simply broken?
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| One of my favourites is the way some large manufacturers advertise their products by saying that, if you buy them, they'll donate a penny to charidee.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "It's a PLC - profit is a shareholder requirement, otherwise there'd be no dividend. It's economics.
Of course, you believe that it's nothing to do with individuals / communities / health / sustainability. Perhaps a read of the PLCs' Corporate Responsibility information may help. Details herehttps://www.tescoplc.com/index.asp?pageid
Headlines from this (for 12/13)
But they treat their shop floor staff like crap (allegedly). Why is that if they are such a great company?
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| And they're buggers for trying to wheedle out of honouring their 'double the difference' pledge when they mess up their pricing.
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| Quote: Th'ump "And they're buggers for trying to wheedle out of honouring their 'double the difference' pledge when they mess up their pricing.'"
Sadly all their T&C's say errors and omissions excepted (E&OE).
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| Quote: cod'ead "Maybe I could stop paying Income Tax and make a donation to the charity of my choice instead?
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Erm, you can can't you?
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Big Graeme "Erm, you can can't you?'"
I was thinking more along the lines of an amount I felt appropriate too. And instead of paying VED and council tax, I'll simply fill in a couple of potholes
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| Quote: cod'ead "I was thinking more along the lines of an amount I felt appropriate too. And instead of paying VED and council tax, I'll simply fill in a couple of potholes'"
Nah, just get your staff and customers to do it in their own time ... then you just stick your logo on it and pretend you're socially responsible.
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2051.jpg The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| rlEnjoy your raspberriesrl
They're still at it and refusing to accept any blame.
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| Quote: Man in Madrid "It's a PLC - profit is a shareholder requirement, otherwise there'd be no dividend. It's economics.
Of course, you believe that it's nothing to do with individuals / communities / health / sustainability. Perhaps a read of the PLCs' Corporate Responsibility information may help. Details herehttps://www.tescoplc.com/index.asp?pageid
Headlines from this (for 12/13)
Who contributes to the charity of the year? Is it just low-paid staff and customers or do Tesco put their hands in their pockets? If so to what extent?
Ethically, IMO, Tesco is non-league.
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| Quote: cod'ead "rlEnjoy your raspberriesrl
They're still at it and refusing to accept any blame.'"
Although that is a year old I doubt much has changed, besides the 10% price increase...
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