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| 2 weeks ago my wife tested positive for covid. i had 2 calls from the nhs to check i was self isolating. both lasted less than 2 minutes and consisted of are you isolating at home and have you met anyone from outside your houshold. total waste of time
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| Quote roo67="roo67"2 weeks ago my wife tested positive for covid. i had 2 calls from the nhs to check i was self isolating. both lasted less than 2 minutes and consisted of are you isolating at home and have you met anyone from outside your houshold. total waste of time'"
So how many calls and how long were you expecting? Sounds to me like they did their job. What did you want? A personal visit and a cuddle? Jeez
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| Quote wotsupcas="wotsupcas"So how many calls and how long were you expecting? Sounds to me like they did their job. What did you want? A personal visit and a cuddle? Jeez'"
i was never asked if i had any symptoms or who i had been in contact with before my wifes positive test. they didnt even bother to tell me about the app . just the basics of a well run track and trace system
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| I was sent a message saying I had been near someone who tested positive, the problem was I was not in the U.K. and the system did not work. It turned out I was a victim of the fat fingers scandal.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Hilarious again Sal, China's economy is one of the fastest growing economies on the planet. I dont think that you can suggest that they ignore economic impact.
As for throwing money away, our current government are exceeding in this area, plunging the country's debt to unprecedented peace time levels.
As for the public "buying in" to track and trace, perhaps if we'd had a "World Beating" system, not only would the public have bought into it but, it might have actually worked ??'"
China is a huge economy - they can lockdown 60m people and it would have very limited impact on its economy - again your desire to get at the government impairs your ability to have a rational debate
Not sure what else the government can do - are you suggesting the investment in the furlough etc was a bad thing?
The track and trace would work much better if everyone was more compliant that is pretty obvious. If you really want to bring business to its knees then track and trace is the way.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"China is a huge economy - they can lockdown 60m people and it would have very limited impact on its economy - again your desire to get at the government impairs your ability to have a rational debate
Not sure what else the government can do - are you suggesting the investment in the furlough etc was a bad thing?
The track and trace would work much better if everyone was more compliant that is pretty obvious. If you really want to bring business to its knees then track and trace is the way.'"
Even Boris "liar" Johnson is acknowledging that his "world beating" system needs to improve before we can move forward.
Perhaps if they had worked harder on getting it right before their premature proclamation, we may not have been in quite the mess that we are currently in.
Maybe we should have delayed the return to University too 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Even Boris "liar" Johnson is acknowledging that his "world beating" system needs to improve before we can move forward.
Perhaps if they had worked harder on getting it right before their premature proclamation, we may not have been in quite the mess that we are currently in.
Maybe we should have delayed the return to University too
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I agree in respect of a more robust tracking system - we appear to have got past the testing issues.
Whenever you would have sent kids back to university this was going to happen - all you would have done is have the same situation in later down the line. The longer you delayed the greater the impact as winter sets in? Leeds the infection rate is now declining as the students get back to normality
If people wont give correct contact details, wont download the app etc the trace system is completely impotent. Business will suffer serious issues if those told to self isolate with no symptoms can't get a test - its crazy.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I agree in respect of a more robust tracking system - we appear to have got past the testing issues.
Whenever you would have sent kids back to university this was going to happen - all you would have done is have the same situation in later down the line. The longer you delayed the greater the impact as winter sets in? Leeds the infection rate is now declining as the students get back to normality
If people wont give correct contact details, wont download the app etc the trace system is completely impotent. Business will suffer serious issues if those told to self isolate with symptoms can't get a test - its crazy.'"
The rate is falling in Leeds due to your tier 3 status ??
A delayed / staged return would definitely have been the better option, although this would have caused some issues with student accommodation and more precisely, who picked up the tab for the rental on empty property.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"The rate is falling in Leeds due to your tier 3 status ??
A delayed / staged return would definitely have been the better option, although this would have caused some issues with student accommodation and more precisely, who picked up the tab for the rental on empty property.'"
Leeds is tier 2?
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Leeds is tier 2?'"
My apologies, I know that a pal of mine had to withdraw from watching games in our boozer a few weeks ago and I thought you were a level up on Wakefield.
It seems we are in the same "league" after all. The point still stands though.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"My apologies, I know that a pal of mine had to withdraw from watching games in our boozer a few weeks ago and I thought you were a level up on Wakefield.
It seems we are in the same "league" after all. The point still stands though.'"
The spike in cases in Leeds was in areas mostly occupied by students e.g. central, Hyde Park it is no surprise two weeks later the rate is falling and hospital admissions have remained stable. Leeds centre was already very quiet so tier 2 has had very limited impact on reducing the virus as there has been tiny changes in behaviour
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| This is just staggering reading...
[urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/nhs-test-and-trace-dido-harding-says-scheme-failed-to-predict-demand[/url
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