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| Quote: WIZEB "Fair play to Mike Ashley and Sports Direct.
Each of their 2000 staff to receive a £43,000 shares windfall for beating sales and profits targets.
Reading the article, the board had recommended a scheme where Ashley would have received £26,000,000 in bonuses for the year.
They haven't revealed how much he'll be getting in the new scheme.
I'd be saving the claps TBH. Mike Ashley has got so much money he doesn't need your applause as well. Especially when he was being a greedy **** in the first place but got slapped down.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Reading the article, the board had recommended a scheme where Ashley would have received £26,000,000 in bonuses for the year.
They haven't revealed how much he'll be getting in the new scheme.
I'd be saving the claps TBH. Mike Ashley has got so much money he doesn't need your applause as well. Especially when he was being a greedy **** in the first place but got slapped down.'"
Why?
Are you rearmed with a load more BS Bombs?
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho " Mike Ashley has got so much money he doesn't need your applause as well. Especially when he was being a greedy **** in the first place but got slapped down.'"
Has he got so much money that if he wanted he could buy a s***e premiership football club?
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| Quote: WIZEB "Why?
Are you rearmed with a load more BS Bombs?'"
You offered a round of applause to Mike Ashley and the Sports Direct board after you read the article about them giving their staff bonuses of £43,000.
You missed out the bit about Mike Ashley and the board initially awarding Ashley £26m in bonuses.
Given the fact Ashley was taking £26m off the table, and the fact he's already a billionaire anyway, and the share price will have risen making him even richer, does he really need you to laud him to people?
You are a good example of the BS bomb culture. People read about the 13,000 deaths that have been caused in the NHS and are outraged. They don't bother to actually read the articles and see that the figures are wrong and it's a pathetic political attack. The headlines matter, the facts behind the headlines don't. Control the headline and soundbite and the facts don't matter.
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| Quote: Dally "Has he got so much money that if he wanted he could buy a s***e premiership football club?'"
He's already got a pretty good PL club. Why would he want a s***e one?
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "You offered a round of applause to Mike Ashley and the Sports Direct board after you read the article about them giving their staff bonuses of £43,000.
You missed out the bit about Mike Ashley and the board initially awarding Ashley £26m in bonuses.
Given the fact Ashley was taking £26m off the table, and the fact he's already a billionaire anyway, and the share price will have risen making him even richer, does he really need you to laud him to people?
You are a good example of the BS bomb culture. People read about the 13,000 deaths that have been caused in the NHS and are outraged. They don't bother to actually read the articles and see that the figures are wrong and it's a pathetic political attack. The headlines matter, the facts behind the headlines don't. Control the headline and soundbite and the facts don't matter.'"
It's irrelevant to me whether Ashley is a billionaire or not.
If I want to applaud his company paying all his full time employees 43 grand, many of whom are on less than 20k per annum, I'll carry right on thanks.
Irregardless of your BS Bomb utter bull!
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| Quote: WIZEB "It's irrelevant to me whether Ashley is a billionaire or not.'"
Obviously.
Quote: WIZEB "If I want to applaud his company paying all his full time employees 43 grand, many of whom are on less than 20k per annum, I'll carry right on thanks.'"
And that's the kind of stupidity which means that people can be hoodwinked into receiving less money than they probably should be.
If you're a long term employee and want to stay at SD for life, would you prefer a one off payment of 43k and stay on 20k a year, or would you prefer your wage to be raised to 30 and given fair raises for the rest of your employment based on good work?
If you're an employee and receive the 43k and it ends up damaging the company is it a good thing that the company shelled out those bonuses?
Quote: WIZEB "Irregardless of your BS Bomb utter bull!'"
Maybe you understand my points and are completely correct to dismiss it.
Or maybe you just don't have a clue and are just trying to mock me to hide that fact.
It's not for me to judge.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Do you care about Tesco staff in any way except using them to bash Tesco?'"
No my point is that Sports Direct are not a listed plc, they have no instutional shareholders demanding ever greater returns on investment, so that the same shareholders can trouser ever greater dividends. Rather than Ashley hand millions over to the taxman (there's no doubt about tax-efficiency driving the scheme), he's sharing it among his staff. Of course it may mean that by the time the shares can be cashed in, they're worth two balloons and a goldfish, but that's a chance they'd take.
Between Tesco and Sports Direct, my opinion is SD is the more acceptable face of capitalism
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Obviously.
And that's the kind of stupidity which means that people can be hoodwinked into receiving less money than they probably should be.
If you're a long term employee and want to stay at SD for life, would you prefer a one off payment of 43k and stay on 20k a year, or would you prefer your wage to be raised to 30 and given fair raises for the rest of your employment based on good work?
If you're an employee and receive the 43k and it ends up damaging the company is it a good thing that the company shelled out those bonuses?
Maybe you understand my points and are completely correct to dismiss it.
Or maybe you just don't have a clue and are just trying to mock me to hide that fact.
It's not for me to judge.'"
I'm pretty sure I'd prefer a one off payment than not one at all, what about you?
The rest of your guff is hypothetical BS like most of the rhubarb you type.
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| Quote: WIZEB "I'm pretty sure I'd prefer a one off payment than not one at all, what about you?
The rest of your guff is hypothetical BS like most of the rhubarb you type.'"
[iDavid Cameron today announced that every person in the UK will receive £10,000 as a way to re-start the economy
The details of his new re-starting of the economy also reveal payouts of £1bn each to himself, his three closest party advisers and 10 of the richest and most powerful people in the country.[/i
Quote: WIZEB "Woooo, hoooo. Ten grand!!!! There's only one David Cameron, one David Cameron. Hic.'"
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "[iDavid Cameron today announced that every person in the UK will receive £10,000 as a way to re-start the economy
The details of his new re-starting of the economy also reveal payouts of £1bn each to himself, his three closest party advisers and 10 of the richest and most powerful people in the country.[/i
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Fook ten grand.
I'd thank Mike for the 43k.
Tell him to go and flog his own fooking trainers, then fook off abroad whoring and on the p[ii[/iss for a year.
But hey, that's just me.
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| Quote: WIZEB "Fook ten grand.
I'd thank Mike for the 43k.
Tell him to go and flog his own fooking trainers, then fook off abroad whoring and on the p[ii[/iss for a year.
But hey, that's just me.'"
I am not surprised.
But thanks for illustrating my points. Even though you'll never begin to have a clue how.
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| Quote: cod'ead "No my point is that Sports Direct are not a listed plc, they have no instutional shareholders demanding ever greater returns on investment, so that the same shareholders can trouser ever greater dividends. Rather than Ashley hand millions over to the taxman (there's no doubt about tax-efficiency driving the scheme), he's sharing it among his staff. Of course it may mean that by the time the shares can be cashed in, they're worth two balloons and a goldfish, but that's a chance they'd take.
Between Tesco and Sports Direct, my opinion is SD is the more acceptable face of capitalism'"
Another company that was like this was Phones4U. It was also not a PLC and John Caudwell did the same sort of thing when he owned it. He set up EBT's and while it was (until the law changed) tax efficient he did it to motivate his employees. He adopted some other scheme to do the same once the EBT mechanism was no longer available. He basically shared the profits amongst the employees.
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| Quote: DaveO "Another company that was like this was Phones4U. It was also not a PLC and John Caudwell did the same sort of thing when he owned it. He set up EBT's and while it was (until the law changed) tax efficient he did it to motivate his employees. He adopted some other scheme to do the same once the EBT mechanism was no longer available. He basically shared the profits amongst the employees.'"
You are a good example of the BS bomb culture.
Do you really need to laud Caudwell to people?
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| Alas, Mr Cameron does not want us watching pornography, unless we ask our ISP's nicely if we'd like to watch it, and i'm SURRRRE records of people who have asked for porn to be unblocked would definitely NOT be kept on some sort of 'ayup, he's a pervert/peado' database for future use. No siree bob. I hope nobody here has a r*pe kink either, criminals! We may as well all upsticks to China
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