Was it not Johnson who said what wasn't?

At a time when we have needed urgent action by governments I'd rather take my chances with a party which believed in the power of government to do things rather than one which throws billions away to either their friends or to companies which specialise in profiteering from bloated government contracts.

And at a time when understanding and interpreting the science is critical, I'd rather not take my chances with a party which has a strong recent history of science denial.

It's no coincidence that the results in countries with hard right populist wannabe strong men in power have seen the worst results during this.

The problem is the science isn't clear - and you can't ignore the economic impact - this isn't China.

The public sector has thrown billions away on many projects e.g. The NHS computerisation of records being one so its not a public vs private. Track and trace only works if you get total buy in from the public - we know in this country it will not happen unless it is forced which we all know wont happen.

Hilarious again Sal, China's economy is one of the fastest growing economies on the planet. I dont think that you can suggest that they ignore economic impact.
As for throwing money away, our current government are exceeding in this area, plunging the country's debt to unprecedented peace time levels.
As for the public "buying in" to track and trace, perhaps if we'd had a "World Beating" system, not only would the public have bought into it but, it might have actually worked ??

More bleating, no answers, you should become a local councillor on a sink estate, you'd fit right in.

You can only aspire to live on a "sink estate" like mine

Now, let me think who you were before your recent name change.
Could be Steph but, he's better than you so, more likely to be our former friend from Hull

2 weeks ago my wife tested positive for covid. i had 2 calls from the nhs to check i was self isolating. both lasted less than 2 minutes and consisted of are you isolating at home and have you met anyone from outside your houshold. total waste of time

So how many calls and how long were you expecting? Sounds to me like they did their job. What did you want? A personal visit and a cuddle? Jeez

i was never asked if i had any symptoms or who i had been in contact with before my wifes positive test. they didnt even bother to tell me about the app . just the basics of a well run track and trace system

I was sent a message saying I had been near someone who tested positive, the problem was I was not in the U.K. and the system did not work. It turned out I was a victim of the fat fingers scandal.

China is a huge economy - they can lockdown 60m people and it would have very limited impact on its economy - again your desire to get at the government impairs your ability to have a rational debate

Not sure what else the government can do - are you suggesting the investment in the furlough etc was a bad thing?

The track and trace would work much better if everyone was more compliant that is pretty obvious. If you really want to bring business to its knees then track and trace is the way.

Even Boris "liar" Johnson is acknowledging that his "world beating" system needs to improve before we can move forward.
Perhaps if they had worked harder on getting it right before their premature proclamation, we may not have been in quite the mess that we are currently in.
Maybe we should have delayed the return to University too

The rate is falling in Leeds due to your tier 3 status ??

A delayed / staged return would definitely have been the better option, although this would have caused some issues with student accommodation and more precisely, who picked up the tab for the rental on empty property.

Leeds is tier 2?