are you for real, the guy molested kids, he was a paedophile and a rapist (if you believe some of the girls were of age of consent), I don't want him to die quickly, I hope he rots slowly and has time to suffer like his victims have for many years.

I suggest you wouldn't be expressing these opinions in public, in person, you like the "shock an awe anonymity" that RLFans affords, which is fine, am guilty of that myself, but not in defence of people like Harris, I am sure he probably did have two little boys with two little toys, rot in hell Harris.

Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "I haven't read any of the subsequent replies. I clicked on the link for the judges summation and it was NA. But I will just quickly respond to you. I've explained at very long length my reasons for feeling uneasy at him being sent to prison. I've implored someone to point me to examples of why his jail sentence is justified. No one has offered anything as to why he deserves to be labelled a paedo and his life in extreme danger unless he is massively protected in prison. But everyone pretty much seems to support him going to jail for a long lime and will probably cheer if he doesn't last a week inside before being killed. IMO the only reason for this is that he's been labelled as a paedophile. Apart from the 8 year old girl, the label isn't even appropriate. But because he's labelled as a paedo people seem to instinctively want him dead. If Harris did touch the 8 year old girl inappropriately then TBH I join in with everyone else in hoping he's killed. If he did that then let him swing. But if you're happy with a he said, she said 40 years after the event that's your right. It leaves me with a profound sense of unease. I've hinted in my posts, perhaps badly, about times in my life when people were in the grips of a media frenzy. The nonsense fabrication of satanic ritual abuse, the issue of repressed and fabricated memories, Roseanne Barr and her allegation that nearly everyone's been abused, we just don't remember it. Most of these frenzies turn out to be nonsense. IMO with the death of Savile and post death feeding frenzy we've gone from one extreme to the other.'" The sentencing remarks are here... www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/ ... arris1.pdf

Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "I haven't read any of the subsequent replies. I clicked on the link for the judges summation and it was NA. But I will just quickly respond to you. I've explained at very long length my reasons for feeling uneasy at him being sent to prison. I've implored someone to point me to examples of why his jail sentence is justified. No one has offered anything as to why he deserves to be labelled a paedo and his life in extreme danger unless he is massively protected in prison. But everyone pretty much seems to support him going to jail for a long lime and will probably cheer if he doesn't last a week inside before being killed. IMO the only reason for this is that he's been labelled as a paedophile. Apart from the 8 year old girl, the label isn't even appropriate. But because he's labelled as a paedo people seem to instinctively want him dead. If Harris did touch the 8 year old girl inappropriately then TBH I join in with everyone else in hoping he's killed. If he did that then let him swing. But if you're happy with a he said, she said 40 years after the event that's your right. It leaves me with a profound sense of unease. I've hinted in my posts, perhaps badly, about times in my life when people were in the grips of a media frenzy. The nonsense fabrication of satanic ritual abuse, the issue of repressed and fabricated memories, Roseanne Barr and her allegation that nearly everyone's been abused, we just don't remember it. Most of these frenzies turn out to be nonsense. IMO with the death of Savile and post death feeding frenzy we've gone from one extreme to the other.'" The sentencing remarks are here... www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/ ... arris1.pdf

I agree I wouldn't have these conversations in public. Because I'd be tarred as a paedo myself. And someone would probably try and cave my head in with a brick as a consequence.

That's how absolutely extreme hatred is towards paedophiles.

Which is why we should only label paedophiles as people who actually are paeodohiles.

You are happy that a man is convicted of molesting an 8 year old in a situation where he was the star attraction. There will have probably been tens, if not hundreds of people in the room. The girls parent or a guardian must have surely been close providing supervision. You are happy to accept her word that Harris touched her up in that situation. I'm not. I believe that stars get a certain freedom to act in a certain way because of "star power" but they don't have the freedom to stick their hand in an 8 year old's crotch in front of dozens of people and get away with it.

IMO having no statute of limitations on murder, rape, genuine child abuse is absolutely fine. These crimes are utterly deplorable and people committing these crimes should spend the rest of their loves worrying. But putting your hand on a 16 year old girls butt is not child abuse and it is a travesty that it is linked with serious crimes.

IMO the allegation of the grope of the 8 year old girl was worthy of a standalone trial. As was the allegation by his daughter's friend. The rest is utter BS.

All of these women are going to end up with tens, if not hundreds of thousands of pounds for having their felt. And some of these might not have even happened. It's clearly fine by you, it's a situation to celebrate. I'm troubled by it. I think people are genuinely having their lives ruined on decades old allegations because of a clear flaw in the law.

If these girls were alleging murder of their friend or full rape the men wouldn't be sent to prison because their word would not be enough to convict. It's ridiculous that alleged gropings, in full view of other people is likely to get man sent to prison where an even worse allegation of murder or rape would never see a court room.

you disgust me, utterly and totally.

I hope someone stabs you just a little bit, that wont be murder by your logic.

what a reprehensible member of the species you are.

I have no idea what you're trying to say. I don't think you do either.

I have to say, that is a most worrying part of the testimony, you might be a few months out with an old memory of the most traumatic thing that happened in your life, but not three years, not when those three years were the difference between being 13 or 16, those are massively formative years and there is a world of difference, it baffles me why his defence didn't make more of it (assuming they didn't) as its one allegation that should have been struck off the list immediately, you can't imagine any other court case being allowed to continue when the witness can't remember within three years when the offence happened.

I'm not sure jailing Harris is the right 'punishment' - Let's be honest, his greatest punishment is his personal shame and embarrassment that this whole case has brought to him. Putting him in jail (at the taxpayer's expense) is probably the safest and most face-saving environment for him.

I'd have preferred for him to be stripped of ALL his assets - Basically, leave him penniless, stick him in a low-end council house and don't give him any chance to hide.

Every day would be a living hell - That home would be far more of a prison than any he will occupy over the next few years. The fear that people walking past, just metres away, know he is there, appalled at his actions, that nagging doubt that some might even be highly charged enough to want to hand out some of their own punishment.

What a narrow minded & pathetic 'threat', you threatening harm to another human being puts you in the realms of all the other thugs on this forum and worse...

You clearly aren't able to objectively look at what has been said by LGJM and how the massive disparity between the 'abused' persons statement with regard when the incident happened just doesn't 'add up'.

Yet there's only 1 person on this thread wishing harm upon another member of that species. Who is the most reprehensible or disgusting?

no threats here, just making comment that anyone who finds it in themselves to apologise or justify someone like Harris is, in my eyes, a fairly vile individual. I think you'll find if there was any hint of a threat, I wouldn't be posting for some time.

I believe that everyone deserves a fair trial. I think that the British justice system works pretty much along those lines. If a known murderer is on trial and his case is messed up by incompetent police work, I think the British justice system will see that murderer walk because of the failure of the police.

Because of that, the police, prosecution lawyers and the CPS have to make exceptionally strong cases to gain a conviction for anything. Utterly vile creatures will be dealing drugs for years, beating people up, running prostitution rings even though they are well known. Simply because proof and evidence are actually required to lock people up.

I think if any cop, lawyer or judge looked at what evidence was offered during these trials dispassionately, they'd agree that the Yewtree trials barely qualify as British justice.

Jerry Chicken questions why Harris' defence team didn't kick up a fuss over the 3 year discrepancy. IMO it shouldn't have even needed his defence team to do it. In any other trial I think the judge would be throwing that out before the defence team can point it out. But in this case everyone just accepts it as the vital piece of evidence to prove Harris is lying.

I think offending paedophiles are pretty much the scum of the earth. I share people's repulsion of them. I have a 4 year old daughter. I have had female friends who have been raped. I want this world to be a world without any form of sexual violence towards anybody.

But I think the incorrect, lazy and flippant way that Harris is being painted as a predatory paedophile is staggering.

I started to read an article in the Guardian website where a journalist was questioning himself because he'd interviewed Harris, Saville and Hall and wasn't able to spot that they were vile paedos. I cannot believe that people still think they can pick out the kiddie fiddler just by looking them, or interviewing them for a few hours.

If this makes me a vile individual in your eyes then I don't care. I don't think it's actually your eyes that's the problem though, it's your defective brain. I've argued my points at length. If I'm wrong people can point out where I'm wrong. It's just a lot easier to want Harris dead and questioning the motives of anyone who thinks this is not right.

where have I said I want Harris dead? I want him to suffer the same as his victims, if you don't believe the evidence, statements and verdict then fine, that is your decision, my view is he IS a predatory paedophile, and, fortunately, 12 of my peers agreed.

As I say, maybe he just raped someone "a little bit", lets let him off, you haven't argued your point at any length, you have attempted to justify your opinion, they are not the same thing. And the "I have friends who ......" is a little like saying "I am not racist, I have a black friend", it exposes you. Harris is now in Prison, and he will possibly endure worse abuse than he committed against anyone, at least he won't be guessing what it is yet, because hell know, he's been the perpetrator before!

maybe the Lord God arrogant Portuguese t/pot will read this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28174592

maybe the Lord God arrogant Portuguese t/pot will read this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28174592

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28173294 and this one, maybe?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28173294 and this one, maybe?