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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Not that again - there were as many lies on the remain side as the leave side.'"
So, the referendum should be made null and void?
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| Quote: silver2 "If austerity had been introduced by a socialist government I would've had more faith in the reasoning behind it. Likewise Brexit. If the Tory cabinet didnt contain so many privileged chancers and liars then I might, just might, believe it was a good idea.'"
You live in very strange world - why do you think the Socialist care more about their constituents than the Tories - there are plenty of chancers in the Labour party - David Lammy has claim £1.3m in expenses in the last 7 years and he is not alone, a Labour MP earning £80k a year stood up in parliament and requested payment for child care for having to work on a Saturday. The labour party have a property company that hasn't paid CT for years etc. Unite a big sponsor of Labour have a final salary pension scheme in place for its hierarchy such as McClusky. They are all as bad as each other
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| I wonder why Sal has chosen to single out David Lammy for his parliamentary office running costs (not "expenses claims"icon_wink.gif?
I wonder what it could be that makes him stand out from all the other MPs to be chosen for this little trope?
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "I wonder why Sal has chosen to single out David Lammy for his parliamentary office running costs (not "expenses claims"icon_wink.gif?
I wonder what it could be that makes him stand out from all the other MPs to be chosen for this little trope?'"
Has it made the headlines in one of his favourite newspapers ?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "They inherited a complete mess from Brown, Cooper, Balls etc what did you expect them to do?
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Thatcher was hurtling towards oblivion until the Argentinians got restless. After the Might of the empire swept that aside (it wasn't even deemed a war, but a simple "conflict" at the time), she pressed ahead with flogging off the family jewels and sacking disgruntled workers from various walks of life. This mess was picked up by Blair et al, who in true animal farm mode, had become what they hated........but there is a HUGE difference between thatcher and this current mob.
Thatcher, for all her despicable traits, believed that the things she did were in the interests of Britain, whilst the current shower of you have only their own interests at heart.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "I wonder why Sal has chosen to single out David Lammy for his parliamentary office running costs (not "expenses claims"icon_wink.gif?
I wonder what it could be that makes him stand out from all the other MPs to be chosen for this little trope?'"
No idea. Why don't you tell us.
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| Quote: Cronus "No idea. Why don't you tell us.'" I'm sure Sal will be along soon enough to tell us why he selected Lammy rather than the MPs with constituencies all around Lammy's who spent similar or more on paying the rent for and employing the staff who run their constituency offices.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "I'm sure Sal will be along soon enough to tell us why he selected Lammy rather than the MPs with constituencies all around Lammy's who spent similar or more on paying the rent for and employing the staff who run their constituency offices.'"
Go on, you're itching to.
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| Quote: Cronus "
Go on, you're itching to.
Ah, the race card card.
Making this a race card card card post, I suppose.
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| So, Boris, rather than have the new deal scrutinised through Parliament, is now looking to see if he can circumvent the system to force through "no deal" and that is, after managing to have his deal voted through.
I wonder why he didn't want the new deal scrutinised or amended - something to hide or just political manoeuvring to try and ensure a majority in the next election ?
Mind you, Nigel isn't happy, so, we may end up with the Brexit Party and Tories splitting the "leave" vote.
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "So, Boris, rather than have the new deal scrutinised through Parliament, is now looking to see if he can circumvent the system to force through "no deal" and that is, after managing to have his deal voted through.
I wonder why he didn't want the new deal scrutinised or amended - something to hide or just political manoeuvring to try and ensure a majority in the next election ?
Mind you, Nigel isn't happy, so, we may end up with the Brexit Party and Tories splitting the "leave" vote.'"
We have been talking about Brexit for >3 years, you could review this bill for another 3 years and the SNP and LibDems would vote against it so its disingenuous that they are asking for more time. Labour want to fundamentally change the WA to include a customs union - i.e. give the EU back control of trade policy and a referendum i.e. hope remain wins. All the opposition just don't want to leave and will do anything to avoid it.
This isn't about scrutiny as you well know its about leave or remain and delivery the democratic vote - something the MPs simply do not want to do.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "We have been talking about Brexit for >3 years, you could review this bill for another 3 years and the SNP and LibDems would vote against it so its disingenuous that they are asking for more time. Labour want to fundamentally change the WA to include a customs union - i.e. give the EU back control of trade policy and a referendum i.e. hope remain wins. All the opposition just don't want to leave and will do anything to avoid it.
This isn't about scrutiny as you well know its about leave or remain and delivery the democratic vote - something the MPs simply do not want to do.'"
Sorry Sal but, whilst I partially agree with you,(regarding some MP's wanting to "remain", it's absolutely right that Boris's new bill goes through Parliament properly, rather than being railroaded.
There is a reason that the impact assessments and text were held back - to avoid scrutiny and it's disgraceful that the workers and citizens rights are now seen as optional rather than legal requirements.
On the plus side, at least he hasn't lost every vote. Every cloud ……….
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Sorry Sal but, whilst I partially agree with you,(regarding some MP's wanting to "remain", it's absolutely right that Boris's new bill goes through Parliament properly, rather than being railroaded.
There is a reason that the impact assessments and text were held back - to avoid scrutiny and it's disgraceful that the workers and citizens rights are now seen as optional rather than legal requirements.
On the plus side, at least he hasn't lost every vote. Every cloud ……….
I would agree if the scrutiny were being done in good faith and we all know it is about party point scoring than it is about getting a good deal. There is no way the EU are going to give us a great deal if they did every other nation in the EU would want the same. What I would say is the EU have acted in good faith and given our demands come up with the best they can. Its a trade off short term pain for longer term gain. Any impact statement will be a huge guess and as such needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt
I fail to see how this deal impacts workers rights - give me one employment right that has been worsened by this deal? What it does do is give the UK an opportunity to improve workers rights and environmental protections etc. Do you seriously think any party that reduces workers rights is going to stay in power long. All the Tories want is a reduction in the administration of these rights and anybody who runs a business would agree with that. Finding good people is tough do you think having less benefits than a competing business gives you more or less chance of recruiting talent?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I would agree if the scrutiny were being done in good faith and we all know it is about party point scoring than it is about getting a good deal. There is no way the EU are going to give us a great deal if they did every other nation in the EU would want the same. What I would say is the EU have acted in good faith and given our demands come up with the best they can. Its a trade off short term pain for longer term gain. Any impact statement will be a huge guess and as such needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt
I fail to see how this deal impacts workers rights - give me one employment right that has been worsened by this deal? What it does do is give the UK an opportunity to improve workers rights and environmental protections etc. Do you seriously think any party that reduces workers rights is going to stay in power long. All the Tories want is a reduction in the administration of these rights and anybody who runs a business would agree with that. Finding good people is tough do you think having less benefits than a competing business gives you more or less chance of recruiting talent?'"
Sal, the workers and citizens rights have not been changed by the deal as it stands but, most importantly, they have not been protected in law.
This would be just about ok it our current government and leader could be trusted with issues but, they cannot be trusted on anything.
We have a Trump style leader who has a poor record on keeping his word and if we exit the EU with the current format, I certainly wouldn't want to be a UK national living abroad or an EU national living here.
Their rights to healthcare, pension provision etc can be changed on the whim of the ruling party and with the likelihood of the ecconomy shrinking, they become ever more vulnerable.
As for workers rights, where do you want to start ?
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