Ken Livingstone

She created today's housing crisis. She created the banking crisis. And she created the benefits crisis. It was her government that started putting people on incapacity benefit rather than register them as unemployed because the Britain she inherited was broadly full employment. She decided when she wrote off our manufacturing industry that she could live with two or three million unemployed, and the benefits bill, the legacy of that, we are struggling with today. In actual fact, every real problem we face today is the legacy of the fact that she was fundamentally wrong.

George Galloway @georgegalloway

Thatcher described Nelson Mandela as a "terrorist". I was there. I saw her lips move. May she burn in the hellfires.

Good points, nail on the head.

we do know the circumstances, he/she just told us. why is my comment crass? i'm just wondering if conditions were so crap, i know i wouldn't have let my grandparent stay there. i'd have carried them to my house.

Didn't I write just that last night? Ken is a plagiarist!

He did sell his soul to become mayor so anything is possible.

and then done what? Magicked some high quality palliative care out of thin air?

His pals were much nicer than Maggie.

And then what?

Would you have personally operated on them too?

Just heard that 2 coal mines that supply the furnaces of Hell have been closed already.

he would have taken the 7 years training to become a doctor, spent decades getting the necessary surgical experience, spent hundreds of thousands on kitting out an operating theatre, the thousands to pay for the necessary support staff (theatre nurses, anaesthatists etc), paid out the thousands for surgical equipment, paid out the thousands drugs it would be illegal for him to posses and illegal for him to prescribe to a family member, and performed the surgery, aftercare, and palliative care. And he would have done this in a matter of weeks whilst holding down a job to pay for it all.

Strivers versus skivers innit.

All that if he was around at the time of course...

That was Galloway telling Saddam that the Western democracies were hell-bent on killing hundreds of thousands of his countries innocent citizens.

Guess what?

It doesn't - sadly the majority of the shop owners didn't have enough about them to compete that is the really sad aspect. As you keep saying supermarket fresh food is dire - an easy opportunity for any good butcher/baker/fruit and veg seller to exploit - the fact they didn't is not the fault of the supermarket - lazy/spineless/incompetent - those that have taken up the challenge have prospered.

What it shows is a competitive market gets rid of the crap and only the strong survive. Morrisons started as one shop - M&S started as a market stall - it shows what is possible if you have the ability and the drive to succeed.

And the surgery needed.