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Quote: Man in Madrid "Euphorium supplies Artisan bread to a limited number of stores that are classed as "upmarket" locations, and can sell at the increased price point. It is delivered from the Islington bakery twice each day. It is scratch-baked from raw ingredients each day. ...'"

"Scratch-baked from raw ingredients each day" ... that's utterly meaningless mate.
Chorleywood bread is also "Scratch-baked from raw ingredients each day", indeed that was the point of the invention of the process, to make it quicker from low-protein flour with very little proving time.

With no mention of which ingredients or what method(s) and time(s) of proving, it could just be upmarket rubbish in a nice old-fashioned paper bag.
For example, bread can be (and very often is) baked containing GM enzymes (labelled as mere "flour improver"icon_wink.gif, very large amounts of yeast to cut down on the proving time ... and even so-called "organic" bread is allowed to contain GM soya flour.

For what it's worth, I'm happy to accept that this particular "artisan" (meaningless term) bread is decent and fit to eat.
I am merely being deliberately picky to illustrate how semantics can be used to make sh11t sound palateable.

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Quote: Man in Madrid " .... Is the fact that Tesco invest in businesses a bad thing?
The bad thing is the higher and higher market share that Tesco and the likes of Tesco are taking.
These enterprises are already too large and too powerful, diversification is simply more market muscle and a greater stranglehold on entrepreneurship and enterprise.

"Enhance the shopping experience"? By Tesco-ification?
Leave it out, please.

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Quote: El Barbudo "The bad thing is the higher and higher market share that Tesco and the likes of Tesco are taking.
These enterprises are already too large and too powerful, diversification is simply more market muscle and a greater stranglehold on entrepreneurship and enterprise.
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I seem to remember watching a film once where a dystopian future Earth was effectively ruled over by one giant conglomerate known simply as 'The Company'. Everything that the inhabitants of Earth 'enjoyed' was supplied and controlled by The Company (including housing, food, policing etc). Whilst I'm not sure we're going to get to that stage any time soon, the casual privatisation of our public services and the dominance of giant companies like Tesco et al does seem to be leading us down that path.

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Quote: Rock God X "I seem to remember watching a film once where a dystopian future Earth was effectively ruled over by one giant conglomerate known simply as 'The Company'. Everything that the inhabitants of Earth 'enjoyed' was supplied and controlled by The Company (including housing, food, policing etc). Whilst I'm not sure we're going to get to that stage any time soon, the casual privatisation of our public services and the dominance of giant companies like Tesco et al does seem to be leading us down that path.'"


Wasn't that Dr Who?

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Quote: Dally "Wasn't that Dr Who?'"


I don't think so. I've never watched Dr Who. Never fancied it.

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Quote: El Barbudo "The bad thing is the higher and higher market share that Tesco and the likes of Tesco are taking.
These enterprises are already too large and too powerful, diversification is simply more market muscle and a greater stranglehold on entrepreneurship and enterprise.

"Enhance the shopping experience"? By Tesco-ification?
Leave it out, please.'"


When a company start-up becomes successful, many many entrepreneurs look for an exit plan to realise their investment and the worth of the business. They could look at floating, or they could look at selling all or part of the business. I wouldn't, therefore, suggest it's a stranglehold on enterprise - perhaps the opposite, in fact: after selling growing businesses, many people then go on to start new ventures.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "When a company start-up becomes successful, many many entrepreneurs look for an exit plan to realise their investment and the worth of the business. They could look at floating, or they could look at selling all or part of the business. I wouldn't, therefore, suggest it's a stranglehold on enterprise - perhaps the opposite, in fact

Spoken like a true corporateer

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Quote: cod'ead "Spoken like a true corporateer'"


Yep, that's me! It keeps the wolves from the door, and the fridge stocked up.

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Because obviously the bigger the business, the better. Automatically.

As if the horsemeat scandal showed us nothing.

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I see Tesco are one of those companies with more than their fair share of offshore subsidiaries.

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Quote: Dally "I see Tesco are one of those companies with more than their fair share of offshore subsidiaries.'"


I thought you knew that the British Virgin Isles is the world's leading supplier of Value Baked Beans. Tesco buy them from there and then sell them at a great loss to the undeserving British consumer.

Prior to the Pepsico takeover of Walkers Crisps, Walkers would buy potatoes from British farms, slice and fry them, add flavours, bag them and sell them to British supermarkets and would then pay corporation tax on their profits.

These days the same Walkers crisps factories now buy their potatoes from a Swiss subsidiary, even though the Swiss subsidiary still buys the potatoes from the same British farms. The Walkers factory then processes the potatoes and sells the crisps to another Swiss-based Pepsico subsidiary, this second subsidiary then sells the crisps to British supermarkets and the Walkers factory no longer pays any corporation tax because they no longer make a profit.

Anyone seriously expect Gideon to change anything here?

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Quote: cod'ead "I thought you knew that the British Virgin Isles is the world's leading supplier of Value Baked Beans. Tesco buy them from there and then sell them at a great loss to the undeserving British consumer.

Prior to the Pepsico takeover of Walkers Crisps, Walkers would buy potatoes from British farms, slice and fry them, add flavours, bag them and sell them to British supermarkets and would then pay corporation tax on their profits.

These days the same Walkers crisps factories now buy their potatoes from a Swiss subsidiary, even though the Swiss subsidiary still buys the potatoes from the same British farms. The Walkers factory then processes the potatoes and sells the crisps to another Swiss-based Pepsico subsidiary, this second subsidiary then sells the crisps to British supermarkets and the Walkers factory no longer pays any corporation tax because they no longer make a profit.

Anyone seriously expect Gideon to change anything here?'"


Cod’ead, I’m going to go all corporate on you again here! icon_wink.gif

Tesco are the third largest retailer in the world (by revenue), and operate in many countries. However, unlike businesses such as Amazon and Starbucks, corporation tax (or country equivalent) is paid in a number of countries depending where profit – or loss – is made.

Tesco worldwide revenues in 12/13 excluding VAT were £65 billion. Worldwide trading profit before tax was about £3.5 billion. The UK represents around 66% of both revenue and trading profit.

Total Group tax was paid on profit before tax prior to any one-off charges - tax paid in the UK was about £350m, and tax paid overseas was about £230m

One-off charges in 12/13 were big: pulling out of the US, writing down UK property values, etc, meant that about £1.6 billion was taken from trading profits, meaning statutory profit of just under £2 billion.

If you look at percentage of tax paid on trading profit, you’ll see that it equates to approx. 16.6% worldwide. If you look at tax on statutory profit, it’s approx. 29%.

As a multinational retailer, Tesco are obviously successful. They are making around a 5% profit on revenues. Compare this to some large multinational manufacturers: businesses such as P&G, Unilever, etc consistently achieve 12%-15% profit. General retail really is a low margin, high volume business - scale is the only way to get shareholder returns.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "... They are making around a 5% profit on revenues. Compare this to some large multinational manufacturers

So in essence, 5% profit on revenues is not enough and hence the company need to try to completely Tescoify the world, with the bullying and everything else that enables this to be done.

It has nothing to do with individuals and/or communities; with health or sustainability.

And therein lies the problem.

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Quote: Mintball "So in essence, 5% profit on revenues is not enough and hence the company need to try to completely Tescoify the world, with the bullying and everything else that enables this to be done.

It has nothing to do with individuals and/or communities; with health or sustainability.

And therein lies the problem.'"


It's a PLC - profit is a shareholder requirement, otherwise there'd be no dividend. It's economics.

Of course, you believe that it's nothing to do with individuals / communities / health / sustainability. Perhaps a read of the PLCs' Corporate Responsibility information may help. Details herehttps://www.tescoplc.com/index.asp?pageid

Headlines from this (for 12/13):-
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* Industry-leading performance in reducing CO2 emissions.
* 9.3m people involved in some form of activity via Tesco (eg. Race For Life / Tesco FA Football Skills / Aerobics, etc). Every evening on the car park at our Bangkok Head Office, I watch around 200 staff and customers doing aerobics to blaring music! This is replicated at every large-format store in the country.
* Staff and customer fundraising last year was >£13 million. The Charity of the Year was Cancer Research, and I believe that this is the largest single-business 12 month fundraising effort ever.
* At least 1% of pre-tax profits donated to charity in 12/13, in addition to the £13m to the Charity of the Year. £74.5m.
* This years Charity of the Year is Diabetes UK - we're after £15m!!

.....but, don't let the positives blur the negatives, hey?

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Quote: Man in Madrid "... * This years Charity of the Year is Diabetes UK - we're after £15m!!'"


Pity so much of the sugar-laden, processed crap produced/retailed by Tesco and its like are helping cause it in the first place, eh?

Quote: Man in Madrid ".....but, don't let the positives blur the negatives, hey?'"


Indeed. The homogenisation of high streets, the bullying of producers and councils, the absurdity of the chains of production (see horsemeat again), the driving down of choice and out of business small, independents, the treatment of staff (including a refusal to pay a living wage to many).

Let's stick those to one side and discuss the filthy lucre that the shareholders get and the sops to an idea of responsibility.

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St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
 Fri 25th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Salford
v
Leigh
 Sat 26th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
17:30
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v
Wakefield
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
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v
Wigan
 Sat 3rd May 2025
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15:00
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v
Catalans
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
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Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
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14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
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Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
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Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
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20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
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SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
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SL
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SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
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St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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