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Quote: cod'ead "You are aware that love and sex are not the same thing? If so, why are you conflating them?'"

Because sex is an aspect of love. It's sad that you need to ask really!

Obviously, sex can be separate from love, and all but romantic forms of love would not include sex (or at least I hope they wouldn't). But the love which I would say 99 times out of 100 is involved in marriage will include sex.

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Quote: Rock God X "I'm still confused as to why 'God' turned herbivorous dinosaurs into carnivorous dinosaurs because a human (whether you accept humans are apes or not) ate an apple. Perhaps kirkstaller could explain it to me.'"


When Adam and Eve disobeyed God, death entered the world. Before the fall there was no death.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Let me get this straight.
Your view is that there's nothing in the evolution of new species that contradicts Genesis.
Your view is that man didn't evolve to become man, he was created as man by god.'"


That is correct.

Quote: El Barbudo "So, what is your view about myriad of mutations of human genetic code that have occurred over ten of thousands of years, do they not tell us that man has evolved as he has migrated around the globe?
I'm guessing that you do accept that man has evolved, but that it is your view that whilst man has evolved, he has only evolved from the originally-god-created form of man.

Where do other forms such as australopithicus and neanderthal man fit into your view?
Were they men or animals?'"


Animals.

The evidence that has been found in this area is evidence of an extinct species of animal not too disimilar to apes. They were not an earlier incarnation of mankind.

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Quote: kirkstaller "The evidence that has been found in this area is evidence of an extinct species of animal not too disimilar to apes. They were not an earlier incarnation of mankind.'"


Examined them have you?

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Quote: kirkstaller "When Adam and Eve disobeyed God, death entered the world. Before the fall there was no death.'"


That doesn't answer my question.

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Quote: Rock God X "That doesn't answer my question.'"


God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.

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Quote: kirkstaller "God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.'"



Nice God you worship there.


What utter piffle.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Because sex is an aspect of love. It's sad that you need to ask really!

Obviously, sex can be separate from love, and all but romantic forms of love would not include sex (or at least I hope they wouldn't). But the love which I would say 99 times out of 100 is involved in marriage will include sex.'"


"I hope they wouldn't".

Why.

What business is it of yours? How do the sex lives of other consenting adults it affect you?

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Quote: kirkstaller "That is correct.

Animals.

The evidence that has been found in this area is evidence of an extinct species of animal not too disimilar to apes. They were not an earlier incarnation of mankind.'"

Kirkstaller, do you accept the evidence that at some point in the past your ancestors interbred with Neanderthals?

If not, would you reject the use of a paternity test (if god forbid you found evidence your wife was cheating around the time of your child's conception)? And would you refuse to use DNA evidence to convict someone who committed a crime against you? Because both of these are based on the same scientific principles that proved you are part Neanderthal, thus part animal (using your definition).

Please note, this is clearly a hypothetical question, dodging it by saying 'but my wife would never do that' will just make you look like a disingenuous troll.

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Quote: Mintball ""I hope they wouldn't".

Why.

What business is it of yours? How do the sex lives of other consenting adults it affect you?'"


Always amazes me how obsessed many religious types are with other people's sex lives.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Nothing there which contradicts Genesis.'"


Other than it demonstrates real life examples of the evolution you claim is a bum theory, no.
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Quote: christopher "Always amazes me how obsessed many religious types are with other people's sex lives.'"


Oh, it's quite extraordinary.

I remember getting that issue drummed into me during my father's little dinner table sermonettes. Utterly obsessed.

Perhaps it's because, let's face it, few people will do anything like murder someone else, so for those obsessed with concepts of sin, you have to pick something to concentrate on that will actually affect most people.

I don't think my father has ever preached a sermon about 'thou shalt not kill', but 'the sins of the flesh' have been at the heart of a more than a few.

And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.

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Quote: Mintball "

And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.'"


Thank fook I stick to Weetabix and am still bashing the head off it. eusa_shifty.gif

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Quote: Mintball "
And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.'"


How do cornflakes prevent masturbation? Pack them under the foreskin, perhaps?

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Quote: kirkstaller "God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.'"


So, to clarify:

'God' said, "Don't eat the apples from that special tree."

Man then ate the apples from the special tree.

God then turns some previously herbivorous animals into carnivores (presumably with concomitant adjustments to their teeth/digestive systems etc), as a judgement on the fact that the offending apple was consumed?

I don't get it. Why would altering the dietary habits of non-human species be any kind of judgement on the sins of man?

"Yeah, that'll teach you, you s, I'm gonna make this T-Rex eat a Triceratops."

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