The "re birth" of Labour ala Corbyn is dead and having suffered such a huge GE defeat, it's critical that Labour moves on and quick.
The Tories have managed to do the unthinkable and encourage dyed in the wool Labour supporters to vote Tory.
Labour now have to not only win back their traditional supporters but, to ever regain power, they need to encourage some idle of the road and those on the left of the Tory party to also vote for them.
Corbyn was great at preaching to the converted and at generating support among the younger generation but, he moved so far away from the centre ground that, he never had a chance of gaining power and this was against a fractured and broken Tory party.
Starmer looks like the proverbial "safe pair of hands" and lets all hope that he can start convincing people that Labour are a better option than the greedy self serving b'stards that we have in charge at the moment

What Starmer needs to do very quickly is learn something from Tony Blair

Find yourself a nice house pet to give you some W/C cred, to win the northern voters back and be something of a Rottweiler in attacking the Tories

Step forward Prescott V2

I think that Angela Raynor is a Rottweiler in women's clothing and this is meant as a compliment to her.

Unless I have missed it I can’t see Yvette Cooper assigned any senior position. Surprising as she is an experienced and capable politician.

I think you have answered your own question.

The difference being they don't hide it. What a joke the labour leadership campaign was listening to each and every one of the telling us how they were brought up in council house and attended state schools.

They may not hide their upbringing but, FFS, Boris is self proclaimed "man of the people"
Never has been and never will be

Lets be honest here, its impossible for anyone from an "estate", with a regional accent to become Prime Minister, those that may begin their political life with a regional accent soon dispense with it as they climb the political ladder, as do most (not all) successful business leaders.

He did seem extremely silent during the Labour anti-Semitism arguments,despite the fact that his wife and 2 children are of the Jewish faith.

Seems strange.

He has got round to mentioning it this morning.

Perhaps he knew that the former leader was a busted flush,as far back as the rest of the right-thinking people in this country.

Quote: "Unless I have missed it I can’t see Yvette Cooper assigned any senior position. Surprising as she is an experienced and capable politician.'" It's because she got the job of Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee which is one of the most high profile. Similarly Hilary Benn got the Chair of Exiting the EU Select Committee. https://www.parliament.uk/business/news ... ions-2020/ Only backbenchers are allowed to chair a Select Committee, if you're in the Shadow Cabinet you have to resign the post. A Select Committee chair has more real power to hold the government to account through Parliament, cross-examining Ministers and civil servants, requesting the publication of documents, than a Shadow spokesperson which is more about being a spokesperson in the media. So it was unlikely that Cooper or Benn would relinquish those roles. Also Select Committee chairs get about £15k pay increment on their MP salary, I don't think there's a pay award attached to being in the Shadow Cabinet so that would involve a pay cut too! If Labour were to win the next election I would expect Cooper and Benn to go in the actual Cabinet.

Quote: "Unless I have missed it I can’t see Yvette Cooper assigned any senior position. Surprising as she is an experienced and capable politician.'" It's because she got the job of Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee which is one of the most high profile. Similarly Hilary Benn got the Chair of Exiting the EU Select Committee. https://www.parliament.uk/business/news ... ions-2020/ Only backbenchers are allowed to chair a Select Committee, if you're in the Shadow Cabinet you have to resign the post. A Select Committee chair has more real power to hold the government to account through Parliament, cross-examining Ministers and civil servants, requesting the publication of documents, than a Shadow spokesperson which is more about being a spokesperson in the media. So it was unlikely that Cooper or Benn would relinquish those roles. Also Select Committee chairs get about £15k pay increment on their MP salary, I don't think there's a pay award attached to being in the Shadow Cabinet so that would involve a pay cut too! If Labour were to win the next election I would expect Cooper and Benn to go in the actual Cabinet.

Perhaps because he knew it was all bo11ocks?

The sum total of 0.08% of the Labour membership resigned, were expelled or received formal warnings in relation to anti-Semitism, and the Home Affairs Select Committee concluded that there was "no reliable, empirical evidence to support the notion that there is a higher prevalence of antisemitic attitudes within the Labour Party than any other political party." There remains no evidence whatsoever that Corbyn himself has ever said or done anything even vaguely anti-Semitic.

The real issue of course is support for Palestinians and/or criticism of Israel, which a large and well-funded lobby have successfully transmogrified into antisemitism; ironically, conflating Israel to mean 'all Jews' is in itself a breach of the IHRA definitions, but that document seems to be useful only as a convenient stick with which to beat anti-Zionists.

The biggest con trick of a generation, whereby tens of thousands of perfectly decent people were labelled as anti-semites, in a concerted effort to destroy one man.

I take it you're not a constituent then?

It would be interesting to see Momentum as a stand alone party & see what relevance they still have to the working class. It was also give Labour a chance to be a serious ,moderate alternative to Conservative.