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| Quote: "Diane Abbott is vilified because she gets EVERYTHING wrong. That is undeniable.'"
Have you got any examples, apart from the numbers brainfart she had during the GE campaign? And that being the case, does your ire extend to other politicians who engage their mouth before their brain during TV interviews?
I prefer to use rlthisrl to judge the quality and integrity of an MP, and there's not a great deal here to argue with in my view; you might not agree with it, but over a decades long career in politics, she's been consistent and principled on most issues.
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| Quote: "Have you got any examples, apart from the numbers brainfart she had during the GE campaign? And that being the case, does your ire extend to other politicians who engage their mouth before their brain during TV interviews?
I prefer to use rlthisrl to judge the quality and integrity of an MP, and there's not a great deal here to argue with in my view; you might not agree with it, but over a decades long career in politics, she's been consistent and principled on most issues.'"
I don't give a t055 hat about Social Issues, the woman is a liability, you may call her "principled", I call her "deluded".
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| Quote: "I don't give a t055 hat about Social Issues, the woman is a liability, you may call her "principled", I call her "deluded".'"
So no response to my reasonable questions - just a rather revealing statement that you don't care about other people - then another slur.
What is she deluded about?
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| Quote: "So no response to my reasonable questions - just a rather revealing statement that you don't care about other people - then another slur.
What is she deluded about?'"
She has a deluded world vision, in my opinion, as do all Socialists, but the Conservatives are rapidly losing my support too, the whole political system is losing my support, it doesn't matter what we voted for, what is in their manifesto etc.
I wanted to remain, watching PMQ's is painful, neither side is making any valid points or offering a valid alternative.
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| While Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn remain in the leadership of the Labour party theyโre always going to get a raw deal from the MSM. They just donโt fit the slick media stereotype. Thatโs the way it is and the way it has always been since politicians first started appearing on TV. Labour has in effect handicapped itself. Thereโs no point in whining about the unfairness of it all. It was clear this would happen from day one.
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| Quote: "While Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn remain in the leadership of the Labour party theyโre always going to get a raw deal from the MSM. They just donโt fit the slick media stereotype. Thatโs the way it is and the way it has always been since politicians first started appearing on TV. Labour has in effect handicapped itself. Thereโs no point in whining about the unfairness of it all. It was clear this would happen from day one.'"
Blair was smooth, but he was also more Conservative than Labour, Brown was crass "that bigoted woman", as you say, politics has become more of a circus than ever.
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| Quote: "While Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn remain in the leadership of the Labour party theyโre always going to get a raw deal from the MSM. They just donโt fit the slick media stereotype. Thatโs the way it is and the way it has always been since politicians first started appearing on TV. Labour has in effect handicapped itself. Thereโs no point in whining about the unfairness of it all. It was clear this would happen from day one.'"
I think there absolutely is point in whining about it - tax exiled press barons and a BBC seeded with Tories thanks to David Cameron, shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose who our political leaders are, based on their own narrow interests.
Social media has democratised news to such an extent that even in the face of an orchestrated establishment campaign to keep a socialist out of No 10 by any means necessary, including doctoring pictures and weaponizing antisemitism, Labour's message was able to cut through sufficiently to destroy the Tory party majority and disrupt the continuation of policies that have plunged millions of people into poverty and destroyed our public services.
Imagine the outcome if they were actually given a fair crack - people could make a choice based on policies and facts, rather than lies and spin designed to maintain the status quo.
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| Quote: "I think there absolutely is point in whining about it - tax exiled press barons and a BBC seeded with Tories thanks to David Cameron, shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose who our political leaders are, based on their own narrow interests.
Social media has democratised news to such an extent that even in the face of an orchestrated establishment campaign to keep a socialist out of No 10 by any means necessary, including doctoring pictures and weaponizing antisemitism, Labour's message was able to cut through sufficiently to destroy the Tory party majority and disrupt the continuation of policies that have plunged millions of people into poverty and destroyed our public services.
Imagine the outcome if they were actually given a fair crack - people could make a choice based on policies and facts, rather than lies and spin designed to maintain the status quo.'"
The BBC is rammed with lefties, do you not watch the news?
Labour ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED, take your flat cap off mate.
Our public services have not been destroyed, there are not millions in poverty, we just EXPECT PEOPLE TO WORK.
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| Quote: "I think there absolutely is point in whining about it - tax exiled press barons and a BBC seeded with Tories thanks to David Cameron, shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose who our political leaders are, based on their own narrow interests.
Social media has democratised news to such an extent that even in the face of an orchestrated establishment campaign to keep a socialist out of No 10 by any means necessary, including doctoring pictures and weaponizing antisemitism, Labour's message was able to cut through sufficiently to destroy the Tory party majority and disrupt the continuation of policies that have plunged millions of people into poverty and destroyed our public services.
Imagine the outcome if they were actually given a fair crack - people could make a choice based on policies and facts, rather than lies and spin designed to maintain the status quo.'"
Youโve missed my point I think. The MSM hasnโt changed in over 40 years. If anything itโs got worse. Complaining about it didnโt help Michael Foot or Neil Kinnock get elected. Why then choose a leader and a shadow home secretary that are poor in front of the media? Seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Corbyn didnโt get elected and that was after the worst Conservative election campaign in living memory and no centre-ist party taking votes from them. Heโll never get a better chance. Especially now the party has splintered.
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| Quote: "The BBC is rammed with lefties, do you not watch the news?
Labour ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED, take your flat cap off mate.
Our public services have not been destroyed, there are not millions in poverty, we just EXPECT PEOPLE TO WORK.'"
The BBC News is demonstrably *not* rammed with lefties - it's run, managed and delivered by Tories, some installed by David Cameron for very obvious reasons.
I do actually wear a flat cap - but an expensive tweed one, worn ironically to signify my position as liberal hipster, still in touch with my working class roots; so I'll keep it on ta - it covers my bald patch, and affords me free movement around various artisanal coffee shops who sell smashed avocado on sourbread toast.
Who expects people to work? Don't we have record levels of employment, and the majority of benefits being paid to pensioners and people in work? I don't get it.
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| Quote: "The BBC News is demonstrably *not* rammed with lefties - it's run, managed and delivered by Tories, some installed by David Cameron for very obvious reasons.
I do actually wear a flat cap - but an expensive tweed one, worn ironically to signify my position as liberal hipster, still in touch with my working class roots; so I'll keep it on ta - it covers my bald patch, and affords me free movement around various artisanal coffee shops who sell smashed avocado on sourbread toast.
Who expects people to work? Don't we have record levels of employment, and the majority of benefits being paid to pensioners and people in work? I don't get it.'"
again, your jaundiced opinion, I figure you are a pensioner who still, thankfully, can access a computer.
Labour is dead, again, thankfully.
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| Quote: "again, your jaundiced opinion, I figure you are a pensioner who still, thankfully, can access a computer.
Labour is dead, again, thankfully.'"
Remember when I taught you about Google a few minutes ago? You can start rlhererl if you like, then do your own research, including the Conservative Party backgrounds of Nick Robinson, Laura Kuennsberg and Andrew Neil.
I'm far from a pensioner - and under this government, I'll probably be dead before I quality for a state one.
I hope you're wrong - the country needs an end to austerity and a rebalancing of the economy; capitalism is a failed experiment.
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| Quote: "Remember when I taught you about Google a few minutes ago? You can start rlhererl if you like, then do your own research, including the Conservative Party backgrounds of Nick Robinson, Laura Kuennsberg and Andrew Neil.
I'm far from a pensioner - and under this government, I'll probably be dead before I quality for a state one.
I hope you're wrong - the country needs an end to austerity and a rebalancing of the economy; capitalism is a failed experiment.'"
Capitalism isn't an experiment, socialism has failed, EVERYWHERE, Venezuela, Cuba etc.
But hey, you keep your "metropolitan" belief, we are all entitled to an opinion.
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