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| Quote: "Yes, in a serious respone, I do need it explaining, because it isn't junk in any, way, shape or form.
Calorific, yes
woukd you describe Fish and Chips as junk?'"
You seem to be under the assumption that if you start with a healthy item of food, nothing you can do to it will make it unhealthy. That's simply not true.
The chicken breast itself isn't junk, but once it's been coated in a mixture of breadcrumbs and salt, then fried in oil, it becomes junk. In the case of KFC extra crispy, the 200+ extra calories added in the process are empty calories, (energy rich, nutrient poor) they offer nothing but flavour and texture.
Interesting you mention fish and chips. Out of all the fast foods, fish and chips is considered one of the most healthy, but the fish has to be VERY lightly battered, or better still unbattered. It's the batter that makes it a junk food.
Another good example is a toffee apple. An apple on it's own is a healthy snack, coat it in caramelised sugar and dip it in hundreds and thousands and it becomes junk food.
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| Quote: "Yes, in a serious respone, I do need it explaining, because it isn't junk in any, way, shape or form.
Calorific, yes
woukd you describe Fish and Chips as junk?'"
The amount of saturated fat, salt, sodium and other additives that wreck your body, would put it in the junk food category
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| Quote: "You seem to be under the assumption that if you start with a healthy item of food, nothing you can do to it will make it unhealthy. That's simply not true.
The chicken breast itself isn't junk, but once it's been coated in a mixture of breadcrumbs and salt, then fried in oil, it becomes junk. In the case of KFC extra crispy, the 200+ extra calories added in the process are empty calories, (energy rich, nutrient poor) they offer nothing but flavour and texture.
Interesting you mention fish and chips. Out of all the fast foods, fish and chips is considered one of the most healthy, but the fish has to be VERY lightly battered, or better still unbattered. It's the batter that makes it a junk food.
Another good example is a toffee apple. An apple on it's own is a healthy snack, coat it in caramelised sugar and dip it in hundreds and thousands and it becomes junk food.'"
so, fish and chips?
toad in the hole
onion rings
chinese food
curry
it's a sad life you lead, I guess that's why they are called "salad days", wake up, extra calories are only bad if you don't burn them off.
Enjoy your lentil soup, washed down with herbal tea (both of which will have been fertilised bu the "output" of animals.
Happy Easter, snowflake, please feel free to leave us normal people alone...
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| Quote: "so, fish and chips?
toad in the hole
onion rings
chinese food
curry
it's a sad life you lead, I guess that's why they are called "salad days", wake up, extra calories are only bad if you don't burn them off.
Enjoy your lentil soup, washed down with herbal tea (both of which will have been fertilised bu the "output" of animals.
Happy Easter, snowflake, please feel free to leave us normal people alone...'"
You are absolutely correct. He must lead a sad life based on his food of choice. Thats some astounding logic you have applied
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| Quote: "You are absolutely correct. He must lead a sad life based on his food of choice. Thats some astounding logic you have applied
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| Quote: "extra calories are only bad if you don't burn them off'"
As has been pointed out, the amount of saturated fat, fatty acids and sodium in a KFC puts it firmly in the junk food category; that's beyond dispute. And for context, to burn off 3 pieces of KFC chicken and fries would require the average male to do about 100 minutes of cardio - no mean feat.
Like most food, I don't suppose it's impossible to enjoy one every now and again if that's what floats your boat, but regular intake is undoubtedly bad for your health.
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| Quote: "As has been pointed out, the amount of saturated fat, fatty acids and sodium in a KFC puts it firmly in the junk food category; that's beyond dispute. And for context, to burn off 3 pieces of KFC chicken and fries would require the average male to do about 100 minutes of cardio - no mean feat.
Like most food, I don't suppose it's impossible to enjoy one every now and again if that's what floats your boat, but regular intake is undoubtedly bad for your health.'"
where is your evidence about the fatty acids?
who forces anyone to eat 3 pieces of chicken and chips?
The myth that McDonalds, KFC et al are "junk" is just that, a myth.
How much salt in a tin of Heinz beans, junk food?
What oil does your fish get fried in, junk food?
How do you cook your Yorkshie Pudding, junk food?
How do you roast your potatoes, junk food?
What cheese do you have on your pizza (along with processed meats), junk food?
looking forward to learning from your detailed and extensive knowledge....
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| America is just a write off at this point. Gun control would end up like Brazil's attempt, if not worse.
The doublethink of the American right is astoundung, preaching freedom and openly declaring they will shoot anyone who comes for their guns, then the next breath absolute praise and defence for the police who'll be the ones coming for them.
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As much as PCollinson and I do not see eye to eye on our forum, he is correct.
http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/birds-ey ... 0g/p/49999
This is higher in calories and worse chicken quality, this is replicated thousands of times over and is not considered junk. Virtually every pizza sold is worse nutritionally, M&S kids pizzas more cals per 100g, loaded with salt and sugar. white flour in pasta meals, loads of salt and sugars, loads of fat added, yup, empty cals by the definition here.
I've had kfc, I've made it often enough at work and at home, the mis-use of the phrase and what junk food is and failure to address the real issues are highlighted here perfectly.
Oh and the US is f####d
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As much as PCollinson and I do not see eye to eye on our forum, he is correct.
http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/birds-ey ... 0g/p/49999
This is higher in calories and worse chicken quality, this is replicated thousands of times over and is not considered junk. Virtually every pizza sold is worse nutritionally, M&S kids pizzas more cals per 100g, loaded with salt and sugar. white flour in pasta meals, loads of salt and sugars, loads of fat added, yup, empty cals by the definition here.
I've had kfc, I've made it often enough at work and at home, the mis-use of the phrase and what junk food is and failure to address the real issues are highlighted here perfectly.
Oh and the US is f####d
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| Quote: "As much as PCollinson and I do not see eye to eye on our forum, he is correct.
I'd class that Bird's Eye chicken as junk, even if the supermarket won't. Most pizzas are junk and white pasta is one of the worst offenders, despite what people think about pasta being healthy. I was once told regarding white pasta "you may as well just spoon sugar into your mouth".
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| Lol at someone trying to justify birds eye chicken. Frozen stuff like that are massive carcinogenics. It’s child abuse if you feed that rubbish to your kids
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| Deep fried food is one of the worst thing you can eat. It hugely increases your inflammation levels, LDL cholesterol levels. blood pressure and amounts of trans fats and free radicals in the blood. If you want to know why the NHS is on it's backside then look no further than our diet. We're literally poisoning ourselves and our kids with the fried food and sugar we eat.
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| Quote: "Lol at someone trying to justify birds eye chicken. Frozen stuff like that are massive carcinogenics. It’s child abuse if you feed that rubbish to your kids
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Lol at someone who can't read, where is the justification for Birds eye chicken? I've mad a comparison as to what is worse and said that the actual problem is not the consumption of these items but the frequency and indeed further the reliance by many modern day families for convenience foods.
Families on low incomes tend to buy these foods but don't see them as junk food, to me there is a lot worse than a KFC which in itself usually something that is had every now and again. Is it more calories than plain cooked chicken, yes it is, can it be enjoyed as part of a healthy diet, absolutely.
It's when people consume too much of that type of thing or of any food for that matter, that is the problem and simply eating more calories than they burn.
Let's see your research on carcinogens and some actual death/cancer rates linked to them, or is it that people over eating becoming obese and getting Diabetes that is the actual problem in which case you could eat too much of virtually anything, gain weight and become unhealthy.
You need to brush up on matters before spouting nonsense, oh and some comprehension skills too.
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| Quote: "Deep fried food is one of the worst thing you can eat. It hugely increases your inflammation levels, LDL cholesterol levels. blood pressure and amounts of trans fats and free radicals in the blood. If you want to know why the NHS is on it's backside then look no further than our diet. We're literally poisoning ourselves and our kids with the fried food and sugar we eat.'"
IF you eat too much of it, eating too much of almost anything will harm you, having a KFC isn't in itself harmful and can be eaten perfectly fine with no ill effects and as part of a healthy diet, so long as you don't continually eat it all the time and manage the amount of food/calorie you consume which balancing what you eat in terms of what we already know helps with a healthy lifestyle.
In a commercial operation when it comes to deep frying you'd want to lose as much of the oil from the product as possible in any case.
As an example a mighty buclet for one has 1275 cals, I've never had one but that is just over half my basal calorie intake as a reasonably athletic 15.5 stone male. Would I probably eat all of that if I've eaten during the day too, probably not, if I hadn't eaten all day or had a breakfast only I wouldn't feel any problems with having it as a one off.
Does it contain high amounts of fat, yup, will the calories kill me, no it won't, as I said the KFC or pretty much anything in isolation won't harm you it's when it's taken far too regularly and the same types of food eaten regularly and thus too much calories without balance.
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| That's the problem though, people (especially young people) do it all the time.
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