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Quote: Exiled down south "Just because she showed little emotion/empathy doesn't make her the Worst PM of all time does it? Nothing like going over the top.
Her job is to run the bloody country not go around putting arms around People. Let the Major and his cohorts do that.'"


If I was one of the people who survived the fire but lost everything including possibly family members the last thing I'd be bloody interested in a meet and greet good PR for them with the PM, Corbyn or the Queen.

If the Queen feels that bad for the victims why doesn't she put up some of the homeless in Buckingham Palace for a couple of nights?

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "More utter tosh from flea bag, about time there was a separate thread for "ingrained hatred and Tory bashing"...'"


Were you looking in the mirror as you wrote that or, do you think she is the right person to take us forward, which, not too many others do.
Maybe she doesn't mean to sneer at those less well of than her and her husband but, she still manages to look down her nose at anyone she doesn't agree with.

Also, where does flea bag come from d040.gif

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Quote: "Were you looking in the mirror as you wrote that or, do you think she is the right person to take us forward, which, not too many others do.'"


Did you miss the election result 2 weeks ago?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Also, where does flea bag come from
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Quote: PCollinson1990 "I'll leave you with your supreme intellect to figure that out. What's wrong today, did the PRIME MINISTER not wake you with a personal alarm call?'"


She'd probably mess that up too. "Yes Mr Wrencat, I'll wake you up at 7am sharp", only to do a U-turn in the middle of the night and decide not to go ahead with it, Wrencat sleeps in and it ruins his day, and instead of speaking to Wrencat personally to say sorry & explain, she issues a robotic, soulless apology from outside number 10.

Anyway, "PCollinson". Feel free to actually contribute to the thread instead of dishing out insults. Discussing the performance of our Prime Minister is a perfectly valid topic, wherever someone sits on the political spectrum. Her performance & decisions effect us all. If you don't agree with his points, debate them and make your own, that's how it works. You don't want to get banned again do you, like your previous three incarnations.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "I'll leave you with your supreme intellect to figure that out. What's wrong today, did the PRIME MINISTER not wake you with a personal alarm call?'"


You really are quite funny.

Of course I saw the election result, a hung parliament (something slightly different to a landslide victory, dont you think).
Mrs May currently has the opposite of the Midas touch, everything she has done while in the top job has turned to crap.
If you think this is good for you or, the country, knock yourself out, you deserve each other.

Personally, I think that we can all do a hell of a lot better.
We need a strong and stable party with a strong and stable leader to take us forward not a spinning wind bag, full of U turns and hot air.
She talks a storm and delivers NOTHING.

If you believe that she is so good, perhaps you can enlighten us as to ANY of her achievements so far, whilst in office.
Come on wise guy, tell us all just how good she is.

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Quote: DGM "She'd probably mess that up too. "Yes Mr Wrencat, I'll wake you up at 7am sharp", only to do a U-turn in the middle of the night and decide not to go ahead with it, Wrencat sleeps in and it ruins his day, and instead of speaking to Wrencat personally to say sorry & explain, she issues a robotic, soulless apology from outside number 10.

Anyway, "PCollinson". Feel free to actually contribute to the thread instead of dishing out insults. Discussing the performance of our Prime Minister is a perfectly valid topic, wherever someone sits on the political spectrum. Her performance & decisions effect us all. If you don't agree with his points, debate them and make your own, that's how it works. You don't want to get banned again do you, like your previous three incarnations.'"


It is but you also have to have an open mind about other PM's and their performance - Brown was hardly empathetic to anyone including his own MPs. Blair took us into a war on false pretences which might now be responsible for the killings in Manchester and London, Callaghan had to call in the IMF etc.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "You really are quite funny.

Of course I saw the election result, a hung parliament (something slightly different to a landslide victory, dont you think).
Mrs May currently has the opposite of the Midas touch, everything she has done while in the top job has turned to crap.
If you think this is good for you or, the country, knock yourself out, you deserve each other.

Personally, I think that we can all do a hell of a lot better.
We need a strong and stable party with a strong and stable leader to take us forward not a spinning wind bag, full of U turns and hot air.
She talks a storm and delivers NOTHING.

If you believe that she is so good, perhaps you can enlighten us as to ANY of her achievements so far, whilst in office.
Come on wise guy, tell us all just how good she is.'"


What ever she has or hasn't done she still c1m more people to vote for her than Jeremy got to vote for him despite offering to give everybody everything. I think that's the bit that irks you the most icon_biggrin.gif It could actually be worse - Jeremy could be in charge and Diane Abbot would be the Home Secretary!!!

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Jeremy could be in charge and Diane Abbot would be the Home Secretary!!!'"


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Quote: Sal Paradise "It is but you also have to have an open mind about other PM's and their performance - Brown was hardly empathetic to anyone including his own MPs. Blair took us into a war on false pretences which might now be responsible for the killings in Manchester and London, Callaghan had to call in the IMF etc.'"


Indeed, completely agree on that point, and on Blair/Brown (Callaghan was before my time, I don't know enough about him).

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Quote: Sal Paradise "What ever she has or hasn't done she still c1m more people to vote for her than Jeremy got to vote for him despite offering to give everybody everything. I think that's the bit that irks you the most
I actually agree with you but, thankfully, we are unlikely to see them in charge.

However, the Prime Minister asked you to trust her to deliver a good Brexit deal and deliver a fair society.
I know this is unlikely to happen as, despite her "friends" on here, she will be gone in the near future and then you will all be saying just how poor she was.
Why are you in denial, when she would struggle to run a bath, successfully, never mind run the country.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I actually agree with you but, thankfully, we are unlikely to see them in charge.

However, the Prime Minister asked you to trust her to deliver a good Brexit deal and deliver a fair society.
I know this is unlikely to happen as, despite her "friends" on here, she will be gone in the near future and then you will all be saying just how poor she was.
Why are you in denial, when she would struggle to run a bath, successfully, never mind run the country.'"

And cringebin has achieved a LOSS in a general election, despits the biggest proposed handouts in recent history.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "And cringebin has achieved a LOSS in a general election, despits the biggest proposed handouts in recent history.'"


You say that like it was a surprise.
Labour were supposed to be facing oblivion after the election but, Mrs May has actually breathed life into Corbyn and his policies, you and Mrs May must be really proud of that icon_lol.gif

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "And cringebin has achieved a LOSS in a general election, despits the biggest proposed handouts in recent history.'"


Very true. ATEOTD May won an election that had echo's of the 2010 Cameron win and Brown loss... didn't see Brown being hailed as some kind of hero in the aftermath, infact he was forced to fall on his sword for his failure.

The biggest thing here was May and her advisors not seeing the Labour party tactic of offering everything under the sun from a mile away were they to call this snap election, Corbyn had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Couple that with a head scratching, scarcely unbelievably bad manifesto and campaign in general by May and the conservatives, yet it Labour still lost and it wasn't really close.

I'm personally split on whether May should be axed, looking at the list of potential successors it isn't really filling me with inspiration.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Very true. ATEOTD May won an election that had echo's of the 2010 Cameron win and Brown loss... didn't see Brown being hailed as some kind of hero in the aftermath, infact he was forced to fall on his sword for his failure.

The biggest thing here was May and her advisors not seeing the Labour party tactic of offering everything under the sun from a mile away were they to call this snap election, Corbyn had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Couple that with a head scratching, scarcely unbelievably bad manifesto and campaign in general by May and the conservatives, yet it Labour still lost and it wasn't really close.

I'm personally split on whether May should be axed, looking at the list of potential successors it isn't really filling me with inspiration.'"

Agree 100%, can't see any better candidate in waiting, the naievety and lessons learnt may lead to her being an even better PM.

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