You are arguing rubbish though. It simply could not even be possible that flights which run several times a week, all year round (they do a route to NZ from Santiago too, as well as Sydney) carrying many thousands of passengers as a routine matter, don't actually happen! You would have to believe that these airlines daily perpetrate a ridiculous hoax, and you would have to also argue that none of the passengeres depite there being many thousnads of them, in fact ever travel between Santiago and Aus/NZ at all. It is lunacy of the highest order.

If you are provided with this evidence you say they can't be booked.

If you are shown any flight booking sites which immediately put up bookable tickets, you switch to" yes but they are not real, you won't actually get on a plane".

If I booked a flight, wasting a grand or two, you woudl say "Yes but the plane will never go" (so what happens to the millions of pounds in failed bookings for flights that never take off, and why haven't we ever heard about this bizarre situation?)

And if I got on the plane and flew the fscking route, taking witnesses, video and photos, it would all be pointless as then you'd say you didn't believe me, as I must be either lying, or in on your mad conspiracy, or both.

If you are talking about tracking flights then get a grip and just spend maybe 30 seconds finding out where Flightradar and other sites get their information from. There is your answer, there are no Flightradar24 ADS-B receivers in the Arctic Ocean.


There of course is, the shortest route on a globe is along a geodesic. As even you must know, even if you madly don't believe the earth is a globe. Get any ball, stretch a string or piece of cotton tight between any two points, that's the geodesic, and that's the shortest route. Do it on a globe of the world, and you will see why the north pole route is indeed the shortest for the routes being discussed. You don't have to believe in a round earth to agree this would be a shorter route if the earth is a globe.

Again no substance your hilarious. Great timing too, has today's school indoctrination just finished.

I can't believe our learned friend from Bradford has got sucked into this nonsense.

The Earth is flat, the Moon is made of cheese, and 9/11 was solely due to a few naughty Islamic lads

It's just occasional mild amusement. That and keeping the nutter off other threads.

Can't be bothered reading the overly long OP but if the Earth is flat (and I have no preference or preconceived idea) when people circumnavigate the world how do they do it? Go round the "ends" and underneath / over? If so, what do they see and why is it not different to everyday experience? If it is flat, why on a clear day can't I see the Eiffel Tower?

Let's do an experiment. Do a standing jump, as high as you can.

Say you were in the air for 0.5 seconds. Using your logic, you'd 'travel' around 220m as you're moving with the globular spin and smash into one of your living room walls.

However, the atmosphere, rather than just the Earth's ground is moving too. Speed is relative. So a person looking up at a plane from the ground sees it travelling say 500mph, but a person walking up the aisle of the plane, is walking at a speed of 3mph relative to the plane, and therefore 503mph relative to the man on the ground for that short time. Relative to a stationary object outside of the Earth's atmosphere, the plane would be travelling at 1,500mph and the person walking at 1,503mph.

Don't start bringing relatives into the equation ... inbreeding is what is responsible for this strange behaviour in the first place.
A trip to the seaside is enough to demonstrate that the earth is curved, not least because you can SEE it from left to right on the horizon.
Also a boat sailing out to sea disappears bottom first, mast last. A boat on a level sea would just get smaller but with ALL parts visible until it was a dot.
Seemples!
Next!

All the boats I have ever observed could have been related to the Titanic, I suppose!

Ha ha hypocrite.

So spherical and lovely.

You're humerous, I'll give you that.
As for your line of argument and reasoning, I have to admit that you have converted me.
I suppose I have been flattened.

It's revelations like this that adds interest to an otherwise boring world.
I thank you for showing me the light and also the lengths that some nasty people will go to, to try to pull the wool over our eyes
I'm a new man ... I feel alive for the first time, like some giant burden has been taken off my shoulders in pretending for all these years.
Praise the lord!
By the way, does he live in a flat?

Ha ha another fool who loves cartoons and CGI composites.