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In the realms of cycling fatalities (commited by motorvehicle drivers) judges are well known to misdirect juries with their motorcentric bias summing up, often ignoring the law completely to the point that killers get away scott free. A recent one the judge read a statement regarding the defendant's work (cancer specialist) and mentioned a dozen times about the character of the person (nothing mentioned of character of the person killed) yet the evidence completely pointed toward the driver being wholly in the wrong. www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/ne ... id=1363185
The judge even allowed this staement from the defendents solicitor
"Ben Pontin (deceased boyfriend cycling with her) said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences.”
That the person in question was an experienced cyclist seemed to matter not in the judges bias.
The Cyclist's Touring Club are striving to get better justice and the useless CPS to pull their socks up. How they can stop bias judges making (probably) illegal statements in summing up I've no idea.
In the realms of cycling fatalities (commited by motorvehicle drivers) judges are well known to misdirect juries with their motorcentric bias summing up, often ignoring the law completely to the point that killers get away scott free. A recent one the judge read a statement regarding the defendant's work (cancer specialist) and mentioned a dozen times about the character of the person (nothing mentioned of character of the person killed) yet the evidence completely pointed toward the driver being wholly in the wrong. www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/ne ... id=1363185
The judge even allowed this staement from the defendents solicitor
"Ben Pontin (deceased boyfriend cycling with her) said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences.”
That the person in question was an experienced cyclist seemed to matter not in the judges bias.
The Cyclist's Touring Club are striving to get better justice and the useless CPS to pull their socks up. How they can stop bias judges making (probably) illegal statements in summing up I've no idea.


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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



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Maybe Hall pleaded guilty because he knew he was?

I totally agree that now DLT has been proved innocent that the state should pay some of his defence costs. I believe he had to sell his house to cover his legal fees.

As has been said before the CPS are damned if they do and damned if they don't in terms of taking a case to court.

The comments re standards at the time are interesting. I believe that a rape charge should be brought if the evidence is there and similarly in the case of sexually abusing children. However, I don't believe that bringing a charge for a celeb goosing a female is in the public interest as this behaviour, although unacceptable now, was par for the course at the time.

The unnamed Scottish band (and lets be honest, most people who watched TOTP at the time know who they are) probably had lots of opportunities to abuse under age fans. Whether thay took those opportunities is a matter for conjecture but I'm pretty sure Gary Glitter's behaviour towards children didn't only emerge later in life.

How people interact in the workplace is a bit of a minefield as these days you have different personal standards. Touching anyone I would say is an absolute no no. At a former employer I had a male MD and a female sales manager who were both very touchy-feely in their approach to other staff, often putting an arm around your shoulder as they talked to you. Even as a straight single bloke I felt uncomfortable in the female sales reps approach. She was often flirtatious in an attempt to get her way which I thought was out of order and she couldn't understand why her charms didn't work on me.

Humour on the other hand is a bit harder to put definite rules in place for as peoples sense of humour varies greatly. At the same employer as above one of the secretaries, in her 50s, had worked on military bases most of her life and had a sense of humour that was filthier than mine (and that takes some doing) while one of the other secretaries was almost Victorian in her prudishness. I think if you don't know the person you are making a remark to/telling a joke to well enough to know what the sense of humour is like then you should just keep witty remarks to yourself to avoid offence.

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Quote: dr_feelgood "
How people interact in the workplace is a bit of a minefield as these days you have different personal standards. Touching anyone I would say is an absolute no no. At a former employer I had a male MD and a female sales manager who were both very touchy-feely in their approach to other staff, often putting an arm around your shoulder as they talked to you. Even as a straight single bloke I felt uncomfortable in the female sales reps approach. She was often flirtatious in an attempt to get her way which I thought was out of order and she couldn't understand why her charms didn't work on me. '"


Some interesting points in your post which I agree with entirely.

My current job involves me going into workplaces on a daily basis often for the first time to train individuals or groups of people usually in an office environment - I'll often be in five different company's most weeks.

One thing that you learn very quickly is that you aren't paid to be a character in a play or to have a personality, not immediately anyway, which is where the whole concept of that ridiculous TV program "The Apprentice" falls flat on its arrse - if any of those contestants or even Sugar himself acted like that in a real business environment then they'd be shown the door pretty quickly or at the least ignored by their colleagues, if they were in a managerial capacity then a manager who puts on a show like some of those contestants do would certainly not motivate me, nor many others I suspect.

Keeping a business personality separate from your own character is vital and when the client is paying several hundred pounds an hour (I don't get that !) for your presence then they expect you to be precise and business-like, not a clown.

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Quote: JerryChicken "

My current job involves me going into workplaces on a daily basis often for the first time to train individuals or groups of people usually in an office environment - I'll often be in five different company's most weeks.
'"

All of them grocers?
lol

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Quote: Stand-Offish "All of them grocers?
lol'"


Actually I've never had to do that, been to lots of places in the supply chains though and last week was at what will become (very shortly) one of the most exclusive hotels in Scotland, owned by an Olympic gold medalist no less icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: JerryChicken "Actually I've never had to do that, been to lots of places in the supply chains though and last week was at what will become (very shortly) one of the most exclusive hotels in Scotland, owned by an Olympic gold medalist no less Cromlix House.
A different kind of racket.
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Quote: Stand-Offish "Cromlix House.
A different kind of racket.
lol'"


Knee deep in mud last week, however the all weather tennis courts looked very nice icon_biggrin.gif


And I've just realised - the surface was the same colour scheme as the Olympic venues all weather surface was - cheeky bugger bought a job lot no doubt icon_lol.gif

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Quote: JerryChicken "Knee deep in mud last week, however the all weather tennis courts looked very nice
I've just seen who is 'devising the menu' for that place. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Mintball "I've just seen who is 'devising the menu' for that place.
I was tramping all over his lovely new kitchen last week wearing plastic overshoe protectors in a vain attempt to stop the hordes of contractors from bringing in acres of red mud from right outside the front door - it was like a scene from the Somme outside, I got a delivery mid-morning and the DHL van man refused to get out of his van icon_lol.gif

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...and in other news, the Daily Mail does a hatchet job on an Olympian athlete in order to fill a page up on its web site, readers comments indicate that a majority of readers now view The Mail Online simply to see how bad it is.

Story summed up as "We signed a monthly lease on this rental property and the landlord has given us six months to quit - Waaaah!"

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Quote: Mintball "I've just seen who is 'devising the menu' for that place.
There'll be no foie gras on the menu then. eusa_snooty.gif

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Quote: WIZEB "There'll be no foie gras on the menu then.
If it's Albert "devising" the menu, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find foie. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Mintball "If it's Albert "devising" the menu, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find foie. 5.23486328125:5
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