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Bang to rights.
You were caught littering and served with a fixed penalty notice.
Stop whining and pay up.

Not only that but you seem to have taken some pride in making it take as long as possible.
No sympathy from me, I'd be in favour of doubling it to £150 for messing about.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Why do arrogant self-centred people like you just assume (as you clearly have, since you didn't spot the problem yourself) that society should deal with your filthy habit and clean up after your polluting arrse has left the building?

Yes, all boxes correctly ticked. Maybe all that is needed is for the penny to drop as to your obnoxious anti-social behaviour.'"


I could understand if they made me do an hours litter picking in the area, I'd happily accept that, but they don't want that, they want to line the coffers by fining people and do so at a price that covers the subcontractors wage too. I kow for a fact the council don't clean the car park it's done by staff employed by the Tesco on the site, where is my money going?

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Quote: post " ... where is my money going?'"

Paying a fine.
It's a punishment, not a contribution.

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A cig end is no different to a banana skin, a crisp packet or anything else that is no longer wanted and just dropped on the floor (litter). I have friends who would pick up their cig ends and if no bin around place it back in the cig packet until they had the next cig and could dispose of them properly.

You littered, you got spotted and fined. Stop whinging and pay the fine.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: Hull White Star "A cig end is no different to a banana skin, a crisp packet or anything else that is no longer wanted and just dropped on the floor (litter). I have friends who would pick up their cig ends and if no bin around place it back in the cig packet until they had the next cig and could dispose of them properly.

You littered, you got spotted and fined. Stop whinging and pay the fine.'"


Holier than thou? I never drop crisp packets, bottles etc I have a plastic bag in my van to put my litter in and throw it in the bin when I get home and now I have a bottle with a little bit of water in so I can put my stumps into that when I'm done, there's no need for 1 or 2 posters on here to take the moral high ground as they have done.

I'd take a guess that 90% of smokers will throw their butts to the floor if there aren't any ash trays or bins with means to stub them out on.

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I've no issue with Apple cores and banana skins thrown in a field, they actually benefit nature but cig butts and crisp packets, no sympathy.

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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself. When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life. Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away. "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_19170.jpg



Quote: post "Holier than thou? I never drop crisp packets, bottles etc I have a plastic bag in my van to put my litter in and throw it in the bin when I get home and now I have a bottle with a little bit of water in so I can put my stumps into that when I'm done, there's no need for 1 or 2 posters on here to take the moral high ground as they have done.

I'd take a guess that 90% of smokers will throw their butts to the floor if there aren't any ash trays or bins with means to stub them out on.'"


So why do you think its acceptable to throw a cig end on the floor???? Not holier than thou, just hate litter bugs, any litterbugs and that includes ones that throw cig ends on the floor and think nothing of it but will then say its different as no ashtrays around. Well, as you point out yourself you put your rubbish in a plastic bag, put your cig ends in your CAR ASHTRAY thats what its there for d040.gif

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Just playing devils avocado here but cigarette butts are usually 100% degradable too being paper and tobacco and will probably disappear at the same rate as a banana skin.

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Quote: Hull White Star "So why do you think its acceptable to throw a cig end on the floor???? Not holier than thou, just hate litter bugs, any litterbugs and that includes ones that throw cig ends on the floor and think nothing of it but will then say its different as no ashtrays around. Well, as you point out yourself you put your rubbish in a plastic bag, put your cig ends in your CAR ASHTRAY thats what its there for
Put my cig stumps in the vehicle ash tray? We aren't allowed to smoke in the vehicles and get audited with vehicle checks once a month, it would be good trying to explain I don't smoke in the vehicle and have an ash tray full of stumps with a vehicle that smells like an ash tray.

What they should have is provide a proper means to extinguish and dispose of cigarettes and then fine people for not using the proper means, in my experience the other day there wasn't one in sight on the retail park.

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Quote: Hull White Star "... put your cig ends in your CAR ASHTRAY thats what its there for

...at which point he'd be on a disciplinary because its a company van.

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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself. When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life. Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away. "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_19170.jpg



Quote: post "Put my cig stumps in the vehicle ash tray? We aren't allowed to smoke in the vehicles and get audited with vehicle checks once a month, it would be good trying to explain I don't smoke in the vehicle and have an ash tray full of stumps with a vehicle that smells like an ash tray.

What they should have is provide a proper means to extinguish and dispose of cigarettes and then fine people for not using the proper means, in my experience the other day there wasn't one in sight on the retail park.'"


Whats wrong with stubbing it out and putting it in the carrier bag with all the other rubbish? Or is your attitude its only a cig end its not rubbish?

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Quote: post "Holier than thou? I never drop crisp packets, bottles etc I have a plastic bag in my van to put my litter in and throw it in the bin when I get home and now I have a bottle with a little bit of water in so I can put my stumps into that when I'm done, there's no need for 1 or 2 posters on here to take the moral high ground as they have done...'"

It's great that you keep your van nice and tidy by not littering it ... and also great that you have now found a way to dispose of your cigarette butts even when outside the van.

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Quote: Hull White Star "Whats wrong with stubbing it out and putting it in the carrier bag with all the other rubbish? Or is your attitude its only a cig end its not rubbish?'"


The fire risk, that's what wrong. Plus like I did before the vehicle would stink, like I also said now I have a bottle with a little bit of water in to solve the problem. Is that good enough for you? George Orwell eat your heart out.

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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself. When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life. Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away. "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_19170.jpg



Quote: post "The fire risk, that's what wrong. Plus like I did before the vehicle would stink, like I also said now I have a bottle with a little bit of water in to solve the problem. Is that good enough for you? George Orwell eat your heart out.'"


Its obviously not good enough for you or you wouldn't be whinging about having to pay a fine for littering!

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Quote: Hull White Star "Its obviously not good enough for you or you wouldn't be whinging about having to pay a fine for littering!'"


Isn't that what this boards for? Having a good whinge?

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