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What is is Twitterfork?
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| Quote: El Barbudo "What is is Twitterfork?
(God, I sound like a judge .... "Who is this Elvis of whom you speak?"icon_wink.gif'"
The Twitter equivalent of a pitchfork.  |
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Now here's a good chance to self-reflect on our own behaviour.
People want to forgive a child that killed another child. An incredibly difficult ability is to TRULY forgive someone. So well done to those who really believe they are capable of it.
However. What if the grown up kid is now a racist and say a member of something like the BNP? Is it OK for his address and photo to be published by people who are after some form of vigilanteism. Is it OK to attack someone because of their (distorted) belief, but not for a child killer? Also consider that the Right winger's anger and belief could too come from an upbringing of terror, fear, violence and anxiety? All of which we now know more and more thanks to neuroscience causes arrested development in young people.
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| Quote: Mintball "The Twitter equivalent of a pitchfork. ![]()
Ah.
I don't do Twitter.
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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: El Barbudo "Ah.
I don't do Twitter.'"
Can be a very interesting and informative form of social media. But, like any other, it also allows for the simplistic idiot brigade. |
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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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Unbelievable. Exactly why they were given new identities.
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Fook me stupid!!!! |
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He has friends ? I thought that his God would have meade them impervious to anything out there that could kill/harm them ? Obviously his God's not that bothered. |
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| Quote: Dead Man Walking "He has friends ? I thought that his God would have meade them impervious to anything out there that could kill/harm them ? Obviously his God's not that bothered.'"
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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The problem is that the country is in such a state that however worthy you think it may be, it simply can't afford the millions spent on Venables and his mate, and I could make a list of a million better uses of money.
I seriously doubt that there is a vigilante mob who would seek him out and kill him. I think there are plenty who would hound him and make his life miserable but when people who have done nothing wrong find lifesaving or extending treatment unavailable or rationed, the inappropriateness of priorities is apparent.
In modern times, before the state started spending millions on fake IDs, there is no trend of baying mobs ripping apart released killers. Indeed, I find it quite reassuring as well as surprising that so many murderers who are released without anonymity never seem to come to any harm at all from their victims' families let alone bloodthirsty mobs so where is the justification?'"
Mr Justice Bean
"There is understandable and legitimate public interest in the fact that one of James Bulger's killers has now been convicted of child pornography offences.
"But there is no legitimate public interest in knowing his appearance, his location in custody or the exact location at which he was arrested and to which he might return on the event of being released
"If there is, it is of marginal significance when set against the compelling evidence of a clear and present danger to his physical safety and indeed his life if these facts are made public."
He added: "It is a fundamental duty of the state to ensure that suspects, defendants and prisoners are protected from violence and not subjected to retribution or punishment except in accordance with the sentence of a court.
"That principle applies just as much to unpopular defendants as to anyone else."
Mr Justice Bean said "one would have thought" that threats against Venables would have diminished but that there was "clear evidence" that was not the case.
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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The problem is that the country is in such a state that however worthy you think it may be, it simply can't afford the millions spent on Venables and his mate, and I could make a list of a million better uses of money.
I seriously doubt that there is a vigilante mob who would seek him out and kill him. I think there are plenty who would hound him and make his life miserable but when people who have done nothing wrong find lifesaving or extending treatment unavailable or rationed, the inappropriateness of priorities is apparent.
In modern times, before the state started spending millions on fake IDs, there is no trend of baying mobs ripping apart released killers. Indeed, I find it quite reassuring as well as surprising that so many murderers who are released without anonymity never seem to come to any harm at all from their victims' families let alone bloodthirsty mobs so where is the justification?'"
Mr Justice Bean
"There is understandable and legitimate public interest in the fact that one of James Bulger's killers has now been convicted of child pornography offences.
"But there is no legitimate public interest in knowing his appearance, his location in custody or the exact location at which he was arrested and to which he might return on the event of being released
"If there is, it is of marginal significance when set against the compelling evidence of a clear and present danger to his physical safety and indeed his life if these facts are made public."
He added: "It is a fundamental duty of the state to ensure that suspects, defendants and prisoners are protected from violence and not subjected to retribution or punishment except in accordance with the sentence of a court.
"That principle applies just as much to unpopular defendants as to anyone else."
Mr Justice Bean said "one would have thought" that threats against Venables would have diminished but that there was "clear evidence" that was not the case.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Now here's a good chance to self-reflect on our own behaviour.
People want to forgive a child that killed another child. An incredibly difficult ability is to TRULY forgive someone. So well done to those who really believe they are capable of it.
However. What if the grown up kid is now a racist and say a member of something like the BNP? Is it OK for his address and photo to be published by people who are after some form of vigilanteism. Is it OK to attack someone because of their (distorted) belief, but not for a child killer? Also consider that the Right winger's anger and belief could too come from an upbringing of terror, fear, violence and anxiety? All of which we now know more and more thanks to neuroscience causes arrested development in young people.'"
That's quite thought-provoking.
In fact, I need to think about that. |
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