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Maybe a fairer way would be to tax individual travellers? So, one return journey per year could be taxed at a low rate and then each subsequent journey gets taxed at a higher rate. So the more you travel the more and more you pay.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "One reason we pay such a huge amount in airport tax compared with other Eu countries (and beer duty, for example, where we pay 40% of the total beer duty paid in the whole EU) is obviously because most other countries don't see it as their job to play number two western world superpower and tour the world with our forces spending untold billions on running gigs in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.'"

and not forgetting the millions handed out to the suposedly poor countries like India that dont even want our money

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Quote: The Video Ref "I have never said I should qualify for a tax break on my travel. I am simply pointing out that flying is not the luxury some people have made it out to be. For some of us it is essential.

Anyhow, I don't choose to work overseas, it just happened.

Yup, I literally woke up one morning to find my job being relocated half way across Europe and international travel being added to my job description.

Anyhow, Germany treats me well and I now despair at the state of things when I return to the UK. Hate to admit it, but the Germans have better food, better beer, better transport system, clean streets, the list is endless. It's basically a better quality of life.

Oh and the frau? The frau is absolutely awesome. do the frau still have sweaty armpits through not shaving? icon_wink.gif

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The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Quote: The Video Ref "I have never said I should qualify for a tax break on my travel. I am simply pointing out that flying is not the luxury some people have made it out to be. For some of us it is essential.

Anyhow, I don't choose to work overseas, it just happened.

Yup, I literally woke up one morning to find my job being relocated half way across Europe and international travel being added to my job description.

Anyhow, Germany treats me well and I now despair at the state of things when I return to the UK. Hate to admit it, but the Germans have better food, better beer, better transport system, clean streets, the list is endless. It's basically a better quality of life.

Oh and the frau? The frau is absolutely awesome.
Last time I looked, there was nothing preventing migration from the UK

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The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Quote: Standee "rlFill in your postcode and send your MP a letterrl


Will you sign my petition to reduce tobacco duty, so that I don't have to go across to Belgium to stock up?

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Quote: cod'ead "Will you sign my petition to reduce tobacco duty, so that I don't have to go across to Belgium to stock up?'"


Happily, anything that helps people to live their lives without being subsidised by someone else, I am all for people doing as they please with their own income, what es me off is those that think the world owes them something, we're all worth a % of what we contribute, spending hours a day bemoaning one's plight whilst typing on facebook/RLFans etc just arrogant and ignorant, in equal measure. IMHO.

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Maybe another way of making some decent money could be closing every loophole people like Phil Green and Vodaphone use to avoid paying tax.
Every penny earned i this country must be taxed rather than setting up an account for the wife in Monaco.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Maybe another way of making some decent money could be closing every loophole people like Phil Green and Vodaphone use to avoid paying tax.
Every penny earned i this country must be taxed rather than setting up an account for the wife in Monaco.'"


Apply that to F1 drivers, footballers et al and I'd agree.

The biggest problem in the UK is the people on a free ride, you want something, GO OUT AND EARN IT.

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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself. When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life. Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away. "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_19170.jpg



Quote: Standee "Apply that to F1 drivers, footballers et al and I'd agree.

The biggest problem in the UK is the people on a free ride, you want something, GO OUT AND EARN IT.'"


What if we did and worked a full time job plus two part time jobs at the same time then became ill and couldn't earn "it" - no longer? Am I on a "free ride"?? I wouldn't call 96 quid a week a free ride either. You know Mr HWS works and we get absolutely nothing for "free". I used to take home over a grand a month, now I get just under £400 - oooohh I'm really on a free ride, aren't I???

You'd do better shouting at the MP's who are on a free ride with their duck houses and clean moats.

I wish you'd stop listening to the media and stop taring us all with the same brush.

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A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself. When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life. Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away. "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_19170.jpg



Quote: Standee "Happily, anything that helps people to live their lives without being subsidised by someone else, I am all for people doing as they please with their own income, what es me off is those that think the world owes them something, we're all worth a % of what we contribute, spending hours a day bemoaning one's plight whilst typing on facebook/RLFans etc just arrogant and ignorant, in equal measure. IMHO.'"


Having no compassion for the less fortunate than yourself is not only arrogant and ignorant but selfish in equal measures imo. Remember you could get run over by a bus tonight on your way home from your ivory towers you sit in every day and never walk again let alone work again. I take it you will still be going out to EARN IT and not take a free ride????

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Quote: Standee "Apply that to F1 drivers, footballers et al and I'd agree.

The biggest problem in the UK is the people on a free ride, you want something, GO OUT AND EARN IT.'"


Did you pay for all of your education?

Do you pay for all of your medical expenses?

When you drive your car, did you pay for the roads that you drive on?

When you get on your aeroplane, did you pay for the building of the airport that you take off and land from?

Didn't think so

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The problem with people like Standee are they are simply selfish. As Cod'ead said Standee and even the mega-rich are reliant on the co-operative effort of the nation and of our forefathers. Standee et al deliberately (or perhaps via the sheer ignorance caused by having their heads up their own s for so much of their smug lives) ignore that.

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Quote: Dally "The problem with people like Standee are they are simply selfish. As Cod'ead said Standee and even the mega-rich are reliant on the co-operative effort of the nation and of our forefathers. Standee et al deliberately (or perhaps via the sheer ignorance caused by having their heads up their own s for so much of their smug lives) ignore that.'"


maybe I could quote the DallyM and bemoan my luck everyday, and expect everyone else to subsidise my family.

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Quote: Standee "Happily, anything that helps people to live their lives without being subsidised by someone else, I am all for people doing as they please with their own income, what es me off is those that think the world owes them something, we're all worth a % of what we contribute, spending hours a day bemoaning one's plight whilst typing on facebook/RLFans etc just arrogant and ignorant, in equal measure. IMHO.'"


Do yourself a favour.
Read back through this thread and seriously tell me which poster is doing the moaning?

I'll give you a clue.......



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Quote: Standee "maybe I could quote the DallyM and bemoan my luck everyday, and expect everyone else to subsidise my family.'"


But the whole point is everyone is already subsidising you / your family.

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