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Quote: chissitt "Don't think I've missed any point, there's part of the post I responded to, are you saying he's got it wrong too?
the other part of your quote is something of a bold statement to make, it's obviously based on experience but even so every other government we've had has been better than this, you've either got a very good memory or your trying to bluff your way through again

Yeah - you;ve completely got it wrong

Read it again
The OP is saying that the biggest Lie/Myth is that they are all as bad as each other - When they're not
And the consequences of that being that it stifles conversations/debate as those people who believe it think everyone "Is just as bad" when they're not

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Quote: chissitt "Presumably your just generalising, your spot on though when you say all the parties are just as bad, as for certain individuals on here they cover up they're appalling behaviour at trying unsuccessfully to get a point across by using the same old ploy of using insults, is it really that important?'"


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Quote: chissitt "Given that the European Union is made up of 27 different Countries it's hardly surprising they have taken the leading roll in sanctioning the Russians, also on the list is the second and third biggest countries in the world Canada and the USA, as well as Australia the 6th biggest
biggest country, do you genuinely believe we as a nation can compete with these countries, or is your chart in place specifically to make the country look bad.'"


Sanctions should be applied by the stronger more powerful nations and given the amount of Russian cash swilling around London, the UK should be higher on the list.
Mind you, as you rightly point out, "The EU" as a collective are always going to be higher up the list.
It would be more interesting to have say France and Germany listed independently as we would usually want to be "competing" with them.

On a side issue, it seem like The Tories are once again exaggerating (lying) about the UK "leading the world" over Ukraine.
Even for lyin' Boris, this is right up there with his "best" lies.

The UK's efforts over taking in displaced Ukrainians is absolutely disgraceful and they appear to be being treated only marginally better than those coming over in small boats.

They took great pleasure in suggesting that refugees could now apply for a visa on line. It's a long way from the proper welcome that these people are receiving elsewhere.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Sanctions should be applied by the stronger more powerful nations and given the amount of Russian cash swilling around London, the UK should be higher on the list.
Mind you, as you rightly point out, "The EU" as a collective are always going to be higher up the list.

The UK's efforts over taking in displaced Ukrainians is absolutely disgraceful and they appear to be being treated only marginally better than those coming over in small boats.

They took great pleasure in suggesting that refugees could now apply for a visa on line. It's a long way from the proper welcome that these people are receiving elsewhere.'"

Not quite sure about this, but I would have thought that the Russian cash swilling around London would belong to the Russians, and where as I'm as sure as I can be that some will be going to places it should not be, I doubt these oligarchs have got what they have by giving it away as substantially as you are implying.
With regards to the way the Ukrainian refugees have been treated I can understand to a point the need for the UK to be careful in their screening of these people regarding security, having said that the government are quick to point out they've done this that and tuther, and we were the first to introduce this and that yet shamefully can't get they're finger out and join the rest of the other countries when it comes to the humanitarian side of things, utterly disgraceful.

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They point out what they have done but unfortunately on further investigation these statements turn out to be not the truth.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "They point out what they have done but unfortunately on further investigation these statements turn out to be not the truth.'"

Vote Tory, get Tories.

In its current almost Trump-like incarnation lying, deceit and gaslighting are par for the course.

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Quote: chissitt "Not quite sure about this, but I would have thought that the Russian cash swilling around London would belong to the Russians, and where as I'm as sure as I can be that some will be going to places it should not be, I doubt these oligarchs have got what they have by giving it away as substantially as you are implying.
With regards to the way the Ukrainian refugees have been treated I can understand to a point the need for the UK to be careful in their screening of these people regarding security, having said that the government are quick to point out they've done this that and tuther, and we were the first to introduce this and that yet shamefully can't get they're finger out and join the rest of the other countries when it comes to the humanitarian side of things, utterly disgraceful.'"


And if the cash / assets in London belong to Russian Oligarchs, then, "we" should be sanctioning them swiftly not, talking the talk just long enough for them to move their cash back to Russia and only then taking action. Abramovich seems a reasonable example.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "And if the cash / assets in London belong to Russian Oligarchs, then, "we" should be sanctioning them swiftly not, talking the talk just long enough for them to move their cash back to Russia and only then taking action. Abramovich seems a reasonable example.'"

Quite right, but you have to factor in their television appearances, plus they're globetrotting now on the agenda, at least I can now put a face to the names of some of them.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Vote Tory, get Tories.

In its current almost Trump-like incarnation lying, deceit and gaslighting are par for the course.'"

Has being this grumpy got anything to do with Agar?

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Boris's popularity is sky high again, as he demonstrates his unquestionable skill of working on the world leadership stage, whilst the other guy in the commons sits on his hands and agrees with everything Boris is doing.
Are you lot still talking about a few pints after work in his Downing street office!

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Quote: wire-quin "Boris's popularity is sky high again, as he demonstrates his unquestionable skill of working on the world leadership stage, whilst the other guy in the commons sits on his hands and agrees with everything Boris is doing.
Are you lot still talking about a few pints after work in his Downing street office!'"


I’m glad you’re able to find some happiness in the situation. Every cloud, eh?

Which measure of his popularity are you referring to? I see The Daily Express recently described evidence given by the Prime Minister to the Liaison Committee as ‘embarrassing’.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15720 ... llwood-spt

As you’re keen to move on from breaches of public health policy in his office (by the way, if you hold him in as much disdain as me and you’re parodying his supporters… thank you icon_smile.gif ), and discuss his world leadership, what did you make of his six-point plan?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60634017
Quote: wire-quin "Boris's popularity is sky high again, as he demonstrates his unquestionable skill of working on the world leadership stage, whilst the other guy in the commons sits on his hands and agrees with everything Boris is doing.
Are you lot still talking about a few pints after work in his Downing street office!'"


I’m glad you’re able to find some happiness in the situation. Every cloud, eh?

Which measure of his popularity are you referring to? I see The Daily Express recently described evidence given by the Prime Minister to the Liaison Committee as ‘embarrassing’.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15720 ... llwood-spt

As you’re keen to move on from breaches of public health policy in his office (by the way, if you hold him in as much disdain as me and you’re parodying his supporters… thank you icon_smile.gif ), and discuss his world leadership, what did you make of his six-point plan?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60634017


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Yes de Pfeffel certainly brings laughter to any stage he appears on. He is at best irrelevant other than the fact that due to his success in allowing Russian oligarchs to launder money in London any sanctions he applies will have a greater impact than any other country. The problem was as per usual he was too slow to act and was forces into action by others including the man sat on his hands.
With regards popularity I would suggest you look at the recent poll that came out in London.

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Cosying up to a ghastly regime to try to mitigate the economic damage of decoupling from another ghastly regime

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Yes de Pfeffel certainly brings laughter to any stage he appears on. He is at best irrelevant other than the fact that due to his success in allowing Russian oligarchs to launder money in London any sanctions he applies will have a greater impact than any other country. The problem was as per usual he was too slow to act and was forces into action by others including the man sat on his hands.
With regards popularity I would suggest you look at the recent poll that came out in London.'"


The relevance of anything you may have said ended right there.

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Quote: wire-quin "The relevance of anything you may have said ended right there.'"


Meanwhile, your favourite political party keep on making stuff up.
Gove, it seems, couldn't get his numbers right, suggesting that 300,000 Ukraine's could settle over here under the new "share a room" scheme.
He suggested that 300,000 were now able to come here, when the figure was only 3000

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 34722.html

It seems that he may have back tracked now

Not like the Tories to over egg their pudding, maybe he is a future leader after all icon_surprised.gifops:
Quote: wire-quin "The relevance of anything you may have said ended right there.'"


Meanwhile, your favourite political party keep on making stuff up.
Gove, it seems, couldn't get his numbers right, suggesting that 300,000 Ukraine's could settle over here under the new "share a room" scheme.
He suggested that 300,000 were now able to come here, when the figure was only 3000

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 34722.html

It seems that he may have back tracked now

Not like the Tories to over egg their pudding, maybe he is a future leader after all icon_surprised.gifops:


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Leeds 15 274 270 4 16
Huddersfield 15 298 317 -19 12
Leigh 14 264 226 38 11
Castleford 15 238 429 -191 7
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 15 140 598 -458 2
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