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| Quote: hula89 "Webuyanycar is a joke. ...'"
On what basis is the country's biggest buyer of cars a "joke"? You may hate them, but as they are the sellers' choice, and their website says they've valued nearly 30m cars, your comment just makes you sound foolish. Personally we sold the wife's old Vectra diesel through them and got within £750 of book. Add in the value ofmay[/i be able to extract more money if you are able and willing to go through the aggro and delays of a personal sale. But if this lot (or any of their competitors) don't offer you a price you think is fair -then don't accept it, simple as! |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "On what basis is the country's biggest buyer of cars a "joke"? You may hate them, but as they are the sellers' choice, and their website says they've valued nearly 30m cars, your comment just makes you sound foolish. Personally we sold the wife's old Vectra diesel through them and got within £750 of book. Add in the value ofmay[/i be able to extract more money if you are able and willing to go through the aggro and delays of a personal sale. But if this lot (or any of their competitors) don't offer you a price you think is fair -then don't accept it, simple as!'"
Thats pretty much my attitude, coupled with the fact that far too many put far too much faith in the various "price guides" that tell them that their seven year old Astra is worth £xxxx, far too many of those who read those guides instantly assume that their seven year old Astra is worth the top "book price" whereas in reality they have an incomplete service record (or no records at all), no receipts as proof of major works completed, scratches and dents all over the wheels and bodywork, a boot full of dog hairs and a drivers seat with a well deep enough in it to hold water.
Your car is worth what someone else will pay for it and still give them a decent enough margin to sell it on bearing in mind that they want to sell it on tomorrow, not leave it on their car lot or grass verge outside their house for six months, your car is their £500 wage next week. |
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "...
Your car is worth what someone else will pay for it and still give them a decent enough margin to sell it on bearing in mind that they want to sell it on tomorrow, not leave it on their car lot or grass verge outside their house for six months, your car is their £500 wage next week.'"
That is just exactly the other point I forgot to list. WBAC [iet al [/iBUY your car so they can immediately look to SELL it at a PROFIT. Which bit of that is so hard for some people to understand? "They wouldn't give me the full book price in Parker or Glasses". No shiit, Sherlock. 
The more I think about it, the crazier these folk seem. |
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As has been said, Parkers and Glass's offer price [iguides[/i, nothing else.
Ask them if they want to pay the full 'book price' for your car!
Of course, car-buying companies do typically pay less for your car, but the trade-off is that they save you an awful lot of time, convenience and hidden advertising costs whilst sparing you from the dreaded 'tyre-kickers'.
rlhttp://www.cararena.co.uk/rl is the best I have found, because you get more offers to choose from.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "That is just exactly the other point I forgot to list. WBAC [iet al [/iBUY your car so they can immediately look to SELL it at a PROFIT. Which bit of that is so hard for some people to understand? "They wouldn't give me the full book price in Parker or Glasses". No shiit, Sherlock. ![]()
Stick to what you know and listen to someone who has had many years experience of buying & selling vehicles.
No one has even suggested getting full retail price from any on-line car purchasers, nor do I think anyone has a problem with such purchasers making a profit, it's how the world works.
My problem was that their on-line valuation of my car was so far out, it was laughable. So do yourself a favour and stop making things up.
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I sold my S2000 for £3.2k to WBAC could have got 6k according to guides but needed to get rid quick.
Happy really, i was originally quoted 3.6k but they found problems that to be fair would have cost about £600 to fix anyway.
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| Quote: TheSurgeon "I personally would not deal with WBAC, because they are owned by Carcraft (enough said!), and after reading the following article :-
Do they do anything particular more or less than any buyers or sellers of cars do? The article presupposes that there are some generous, benevolent car buyers out there who will insist on offering you top dollar, despite your protestations. This seems unrealistic to me.
If I was buying, and the guy turned out not to have a FSH, or only one key, or two of the tyres were well worn, I'd be getting money knocked off for those, or trying to. Wouldn't anyone?
The battle between the average private car buyer or seller on the one hand, and a professional dealer or experienced trade seller/buyer on the other, is not a fair fight, and it is just surprising how many people seem to have this naive view that tactics to get the best deal are in some way a shock. Is it unfair that the seller tries to hold out for the best sale price, by accentuating the positives?
Given that it isn't hard to know that a giant seller must make enough money to not only operate a national business but advertise it extensively as well, it is obvious they're not goong to give you the best price, even before you start. Isn't it? I would suggest that most people who use them don't expect to get top dollar, and are prepared to take a hit on price for speed, convenience and lack of aggro. A total non-story.
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Hi people buying a car and foun a cat d write off, said it was a headlight and wing, would other impotent parts like chassis engine rad etc be damaged or is a cat d just cosmetic look?
You don't need a check either on the cat d, but he repaired it and just put it through a mot which passed , obviously it is cheaper then most models but would you people touch a cat d write off?
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| Quote: pedpower "Hi people buying a car and foun a cat d write off, said it was a headlight and wing, would other impotent parts like chassis engine rad etc be damaged or is a cat d just cosmetic look?
You don't need a check either on the cat d, but he repaired it and just put it through a mot which passed , obviously it is cheaper then most models but would you people touch a cat d write off?
Thanks andy'"
Depends on how much you're paying for it, if its under a grand with 12 months MOT then thats your running costs for the year and if it passes again next year then you're laughing - have you seen the MOT, are there any notes on it, do you know the place that did the MOT, I bought a 6 year old car from a main dealer in august this year but I know them, I've known the sales person for ten years, they spent a bit of money on the car to get an MOT on it and I'm happy that its going to give me another three years at least - so your answer is - it depends on the circumstances. |
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Just a quick update.
Sold my car today with Best Car Buyer. They offered the same as We Buy Any Car and they actually come to you to collect the vehilce, rather than me wasting a tank of fuel to get it to carcraft! Good service to be honest. Didnt get the amount i wanted but managed to sell at a decent price, so would reccommend them over WeBuyanycar
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Quote: pedpower "Hi people buying a car and foun a cat d write off, said it was a headlight and wing, would other impotent parts like chassis engine rad etc be damaged or is a cat d just cosmetic look?
You don't need a check either on the cat d, but he repaired it and just put it through a mot which passed , obviously it is cheaper then most models but would you people touch a cat d write off?
Thanks andy'"
Tbf the check on a CAT C is only to check its identity to make sure the ID of a written off car hasnt been used to hide a stolen car. Anyway I would drive a Cat D the only thing that stops me is that a Cat D will not be touched by so many and people like youve proven will question whether they should buy it which makes them hard to sell on. Basically my point is yeah its good if youre planning to basically keep it until "end of life" if not then its probably a bad idea. Most big garages eg Arnold Clark, Evans Halshaw etc may not be willing to take it in p art exchange (they sometimes will as there is a market for them as trade cars) problem is those companies wont/cant sell them by policy which means you will get really low money for them (value the car here https://www.capconnect.co.uk/consumerva ... x?CH=U2ETN) and half the lowest point on the price and that is what you will get for it trade in.
Im just saying think about it hard unless youre going to keep it long term then just do it if not dont.
For example if its a little city runabout second car like a 107 you will get a much newer car for your money or the same older car for next to nothing and you may as well go for the category D. If its a premium car like a BMW and its on an 09 plate but for the same money in a non-write off youd only get an 06 plate dont do it. Its so cheap because people wont often buy a Cat D premium car.
Final point. What type of car is it? If its a quicker car then a good chance its been crashed by someone that mistreated it if its a car like a Micra, Clio, 107, Hyundai i10 etc then chances are it was completely an accident.
Stay away from CAT Cs though a CAT D is usually just an accident that wasnt the drivers fault and they dont want it repairing as it has an accident history now whereas a CAT C is when the insurance company has refused to repair it as it was too expensive if someones selling a CAT C theyve managed to repair a car that shouldnt have been repairable for its value so mathematically id suspect that it was repaired with inferior parts. |
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Quote: pedpower "Hi people buying a car and foun a cat d write off, said it was a headlight and wing, would other impotent parts like chassis engine rad etc be damaged or is a cat d just cosmetic look?
You don't need a check either on the cat d, but he repaired it and just put it through a mot which passed , obviously it is cheaper then most models but would you people touch a cat d write off?
Thanks andy'"
Tbf the check on a CAT C is only to check its identity to make sure the ID of a written off car hasnt been used to hide a stolen car. Anyway I would drive a Cat D the only thing that stops me is that a Cat D will not be touched by so many and people like youve proven will question whether they should buy it which makes them hard to sell on. Basically my point is yeah its good if youre planning to basically keep it until "end of life" if not then its probably a bad idea. Most big garages eg Arnold Clark, Evans Halshaw etc may not be willing to take it in p art exchange (they sometimes will as there is a market for them as trade cars) problem is those companies wont/cant sell them by policy which means you will get really low money for them (value the car here https://www.capconnect.co.uk/consumerva ... x?CH=U2ETN) and half the lowest point on the price and that is what you will get for it trade in.
Im just saying think about it hard unless youre going to keep it long term then just do it if not dont.
For example if its a little city runabout second car like a 107 you will get a much newer car for your money or the same older car for next to nothing and you may as well go for the category D. If its a premium car like a BMW and its on an 09 plate but for the same money in a non-write off youd only get an 06 plate dont do it. Its so cheap because people wont often buy a Cat D premium car.
Final point. What type of car is it? If its a quicker car then a good chance its been crashed by someone that mistreated it if its a car like a Micra, Clio, 107, Hyundai i10 etc then chances are it was completely an accident.
Stay away from CAT Cs though a CAT D is usually just an accident that wasnt the drivers fault and they dont want it repairing as it has an accident history now whereas a CAT C is when the insurance company has refused to repair it as it was too expensive if someones selling a CAT C theyve managed to repair a car that shouldnt have been repairable for its value so mathematically id suspect that it was repaired with inferior parts. | |
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My 2p worth regarding cat D vehicles ...
Most will have had minor damage , but there are a fair few out there that are perfectly ok . Some are victims of theft and have merely been missing for so long that the insurers have given up hope of them being recovered and pay out for them . Some are just old and of low value and even the lightest of damage to them makes them uneconomical to repair . One old fella I know had a '91 Rover 214 written off because a neighbour reversed into his driver's door . The Rover was mint condition apart from the door , and it only had 12k miles and a full service history with all MOTs etc . There is currently a Mk1 Fiesta 1.1L sitting my neighbour's place that is written off because it has had a window broken . It spent the first three years of it's life on the road , then it was parked in a garage until it was brought back out last year . 11k miles on a 30 year old car that is barely even run in . It might be for sale to a good home .
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