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Quote: TrinityIHC "The economy is built and runs on the labour of working people - yet all we've had the last 10 years is stagnating wages, health service slashed, schools begging parents for funds, rent prices our of control etc.

Kids can't afford to save up for a deposit for a mortgage and yet the people who ruined the economy are living the life of Riley.

I appreciate the system isn't perfect but there is plenty of room for a bit of wealth redistribution. Not much difference between having £15 - £20m, but huge difference between having £15 - £150. A study recently showed that there are 15 million adults in the UK who couldn't lay their hands on £100 at short notice.'"


The wealth generation in the economy is not the working people its those who risk the capital in the first place and those directors that make the key decisions that generate the returns. It is called capitalism for a reason - without that your working man doesn't have a job unless the government owns everything.

Kids can save up it is no different to how it was in my parents day - my parents had to do it, I had to do it so why shouldn't kids do without to put together a deposit?

This government is spending more on education then any previous government - to suggest otherwise is simply untrue.

I agree a better spread of wealth would be preferable but to do that by saying bosses wages have to be capped is crazy in my view. It wouldn't filter down to the shop floor - the best way is to create an environment where companies prosper an demand for jobs increases that will force wages upwards. Also companies make more profits they pay more CT they employ more staff they pay more NI so you can distribute that to the needy

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "More bullrads, Labour sold us down the river. And if you are really 30 then yould have worked harder at School, Id love too read your CV, " I went tto school, but it wasnt for me", try living in a world where you pay your own bills. I stii think youre 50+ and apomging off the people that qork.'"


I do pay my own bills, worked since leaving school and own my own house + get good wages.

Doesnt change the fact the tories are destroying services and people in work are having to claim tax credits and visit food banks to make ends meet.

Thats not the society i want to live in.

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Quote: TrinityIHC "I do pay my own bills, worked since leaving school and own my own house + get good wages.

Doesnt change the fact the tories are destroying services and people in work are having to claim tax credits and visit food banks to make ends meet.

Thats not the society i want to live in.'"

Ill happily donate a rope, if you can tie a knot, or would you need somone else to so, leach on what you call soceiety, people like you disgust me, always want someone else to pay the way for them. Utter embarassment perceived society, if you were all culled we'd be much better off.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "Ill happily donate a rope, if you can tie a knot, or would you need somone else to so, leach on what you call soceiety, people like you disgust me, always want someone else to pay the way for them. Utter embarassment perceived society, if you were all culled we'd be much better off.'"


How is calling for better wages for workers encouraging leeches?

Youre thick as pudding fella, happy to have politicians use your taxes to benefit their business interests and be thankful when they destroy your public services.

Servile thickos like yourself are the reason they get away with it

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "Ill happily donate a rope, if you can tie a knot, or would you need somone else to so, leach on what you call soceiety, people like you disgust me, always want someone else to pay the way for them. Utter embarassment perceived society, if you were all culled we'd be much better off.'"


How come my post has been deleted but this tripe remains?

Anyhow - another looming crisis for the beleaguered Mrs May; whilst she's sneaking around shouting "STRONG AND STABLE!" to groups of handpicked Tory activists in empty factories, reports are emerging that she's under investigation by the Property and Ethics Group at the Cabinet Office, for a massive conflict of interest in relation to billions of profit made by her husband in Brexit related activities - all undeclared of course.

Labour have already gained 13% in the polls since the start of the campaign - if his has legs, it could see her off altogether.

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Quote: bren2k "How come my post has been deleted but this tripe remains?

Anyhow - another looming crisis for the beleaguered Mrs May; whilst she's sneaking around shouting "STRONG AND STABLE!" to groups of handpicked Tory activists in empty factories, reports are emerging that she's under investigation by the Property and Ethics Group at the Cabinet Office, for a massive conflict of interest in relation to billions of profit made by her husband in Brexit related activities - all undeclared of course.

Labour have already gained 13% in the polls since the start of the campaign - if his has legs, it could see her off altogether.'"

I admire your optimism.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I admire your optimism.'"


I do try.

Even in this weird and brainwashed political climate, where working class people are prepared to believe that the Tories will ever act in their interest, there has to be a limit to what people will put up with - surely?!

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Quote: bren2k "I do try.

Even in this weird and brainwashed political climate, where working class people are prepared to believe that the Tories will ever act in their interest, there has to be a limit to what people will put up with - surely?!'"


Just so, I literally look at what this govt has done and can't see why working class people would vote for it to continue. Those I've spoken to have their doubts about Corbyn, which is fair enough - but surely he's worth a shot considering May's record as both Home Sec and PM.

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Our first pass the post voting system is not very fair. Certain parts of the country and various towns and cities, if you support one particular party you don't stand a chance.
If you look at the votes cast for the snp and the number of people they have in parliament. Things won't change as this system has been debated in the press and parliament countless times . Nobody seems to be keen to change things.

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Quote: Backwoodsman "I admire your optimism.'"


It's unbelievable that she can get away with going to a "factory" in Leeds and surround herself, not with it's employees but, with Tory activists, all pretending to work there.
It's an absolute disgrace and should not be allowed.

It's one thing to hand pick "sympathetic" employees to ask questions but to use "rent an employee" is disgraceful and if we had any decent journalists or media that were not "on her side", she would be exposed as a fraud and a coward.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It's unbelievable that she can get away with going to a "factory" in Leeds and surround herself, not with it's employees but, with Tory activists, all pretending to work there.
It's an absolute disgrace and should not be allowed.

It's one thing to hand pick "sympathetic" employees to ask questions but to use "rent an employee" is disgraceful and if we had any decent journalists or media that were not "on her side", she would be exposed as a fraud and a coward.'"


When Corbyn speaks to the CBI rather than the Teachers Union then I will agree with you - speaking to a audience hanging on your every word is easy as both Corbyn and May have shown. The fact you haven't said the same about Corbyn shows your myopia.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "When Corbyn speaks to the CBI rather than the Teachers Union then I will agree with you - speaking to a audience hanging on your every word is easy as both Corbyn and May have shown. The fact you haven't said the same about Corbyn shows your myopia.'"


He literally spoke to the FSB earlier in the month. May? Not so much.

rlhttp://press.labour.org.uk/post/159447647419/jeremy-corbyns-speech-to-the-federation-of-smallrl

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Quote: TrinityIHC "He literally spoke to the FSB earlier in the month. May? Not so much.

rlhttp://press.labour.org.uk/post/159447647419/jeremy-corbyns-speech-to-the-federation-of-smallrl'"


May spoke in South Wales - when Corbyn speaks to an audience of serious right wingers come back - it won't happen and you know it. Both sides pick the audience Corbyn is no different to May.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "May spoke in South Wales - when Corbyn speaks to an audience of serious right wingers come back - it won't happen and you know it. Both sides pick the audience Corbyn is no different to May.'"


You are clearly one eyed if you believe that - Corbyn is out and about talking to plenty of people - admittedly not in Tory Heartlands - but thats not his priority, he's got enough on with the many marginals he's faced with.

May is travelling around renting halls to talk to the people she brought with her!

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Quote: TrinityIHC "You are clearly one eyed if you believe that - Corbyn is out and about talking to plenty of people - admittedly not in Tory Heartlands - but thats not his priority, he's got enough on with the many marginals he's faced with.

May is travelling around renting halls to talk to the people she brought with her!'"


You name a hostile audience Corbyn has spoken to since the election was announced? Scottish Unions and the Teaching unions are hardly hostile - your support for Corbyn is noted?

Why does May need to even be out there - as the incumbent her priorities are different to that of Corbyn - but both are addressing very compliant audiences. Where has Corbyn addressed a very right audience?

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