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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I cannot see him seeing the year out - too much noise this time'"


Again, I agree.

Apart from his cabinet, everyone else seems rather embarrassed by the actions of the PM.
He's tried the Trump style of, deny, deny, deny but, despite the absolute bias of the press, there is so much smoke around this particular political "fire" that he looks likely to be engulfed. Let's hope so.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Again, I agree.

Apart from his cabinet, everyone else seems rather embarrassed by the actions of the PM.
He's tried the Trump style of, deny, deny, deny but, despite the absolute bias of the press, there is so much smoke around this particular political "fire" that he looks likely to be engulfed. Let's hope so.'"


I agree - he has been embarrassing as the PM, very lucky the vaccination roll out has gone so well - the Tories are the most ruthless party going - he cannot last.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "same goes for Meghan '"


I do feel that Harry has escaped the Royal Family more than being excluded from it. A gilded cage is still a cage, with little to look forward to for the second born. Even Charles has hung about his whole life, basically just waiting for a silly metal hat. It’ll be tough for Harry, he’ll inevitably be somewhat institutionalised, and it is a long, long shadow. But at least he’s got more of a shot at a real life now - more so than Andrew or Margaret managed, for example.

Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom " Cummins is no fool - under estimate him at your peril - now you can see why Johnson tried to protect him!!'"


The thing about Cummings is that he is very clever in some particular ways, and a bit of a div in others. In the same way an Olympic gold medalist weightlifter is a great athlete but you wouldn’t back them in the marathon. Cummings vs Johnson is an interesting clash of styles for a political knife fight.

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I think we can expect good news next week because Johnson will be desperate to divert the attention from his multiple problems.

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Quote: Mild Rover "I do feel that Harry has escaped the Royal Family more than being excluded from it. A gilded cage is still a cage, with little to look forward to for the second born. Even Charles has hung about his whole life, basically just waiting for a silly metal hat. It’ll be tough for Harry, he’ll inevitably be somewhat institutionalised, and it is a long, long shadow. But at least he’s got more of a shot at a real life now - more so than Andrew or Margaret managed, for example.

The thing about Cummings is that he is very clever in some particular ways, and a bit of a div in others. In the same way an Olympic gold medalist weightlifter is a great athlete but you wouldn’t back them in the marathon. Cummings vs Johnson is an interesting clash of styles for a political knife fight.'"


I doubt we will have a monarchy after Charles - Harry could have easily got a proper job and lived a reasonably normal life away from the royal duties. Sadly in-breeding put paid to that.

Cummings seems to be a great strategist - he understands how to win not what to do after - he seems almost autistic?

If he has all his ducks in a row then he could damage Boris - not fatally - but it will sow the seeds of his demise.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I think we can expect good news next week because Johnson will be desperate to divert the attention from his multiple problems.'"


Bojo will be needing sedatives after Starmer boxed him in yesterday.
Boris seemed to lose his cool a little at PMQ's and Starmer remained ice cool.

Just who did initially pay for these (very) expensive flat renovations ?

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Starmer has fallen even more behind Boris in the polls despite his cheap John Lewis stunt. Probably because he rocked around rawtenstall whilst totally ignoring the Covid guidelines. Obviously thinks they don’t apply to him lmao.

Surely he must go down as the worst Labour leader ever. Can anyone think of anyone worse? Even Corbyn was better and that’s saying something lmao

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I knew care in the community would never work with the funding provided by the Conservatives.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Bojo will be needing sedatives after Starmer boxed him in yesterday.
Boris seemed to lose his cool a little at PMQ's and Starmer remained ice cool.

Just who did initially pay for these (very) expensive flat renovations ?'"


Completely agree - unfortunately the Tories are so far ahead in the polls that Johnson can virtually walk on water - and the cost of the flat doesn't even register. People just want to get back to normal - get vaccinated and move on. If the vaccination program continues at this pace Boris will be fine until the polls move against the Tories but Labour is bland I can't see how this will change.

Maybe at the end of furlough when unemployment will rise significantly then the tide might turn?

How much did they spend on the upgrade of the Lord Chancellor's gaff under Blair?

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Completely agree - unfortunately the Tories are so far ahead in the polls that Johnson can virtually walk on water - and the cost of the flat doesn't even register. People just want to get back to normal - get vaccinated and move on. If the vaccination program continues at this pace Boris will be fine until the polls move against the Tories but Labour is bland I can't see how this will change.

Maybe at the end of furlough when unemployment will rise significantly then the tide might turn?

How much did they spend on the upgrade of the Lord Chancellor's gaff under Blair?'"


Labour are too bland, very worthy but bland.

Reckon nowadays for whatever reason, it's popularity and personality over intellect and integrity. That's why the tories are so attractive to posters like Steph Curry.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Labour are too bland, very worthy but bland.

Reckon nowadays for whatever reason, it's popularity and personality over intellect and integrity. That's why the tories are so attractive to posters like Steph Curry.'"


It is what it has always been about - what matters to the public.

If Lisa Nandy had her way all our vaccines would be sent to India - she doesn't want to question why there is no lockdown in India, why they spend a tiny % of GDP on medical care, why huge religious festivals are still going on etc. This is why Labour are out of touch with public sentiment.

The general public can see why there are issues in India - Labour don't want to address them because it might not be very woke - worthy maybe but out of touch with the electorate definitely.

Labour would have us in lockdown indefinitely because that suits their support base - all you ever hear for not opening up - there will be a new variant - its not a realistic view point - its worthy but not what bothers the electorate

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Quote: Ovavoo "Labour are too bland, very worthy but bland.

Reckon nowadays for whatever reason, it's popularity and personality over intellect and integrity. That's why the tories are so attractive to posters like Steph Curry.'"


Looking at the polling numbers it isn't just Steph

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "It is what it has always been about - what matters to the public.

If Lisa Nandy had her way all our vaccines would be sent to India - she doesn't want to question why there is no lockdown in India, why they spend a tiny % of GDP on medical care, why huge religious festivals are still going on etc. This is why Labour are out of touch with public sentiment.

The general public can see why there are issues in India - Labour don't want to address them because it might not be very woke - worthy maybe but out of touch with the electorate definitely.

Labour would have us in lockdown indefinitely because that suits their support base - all you ever hear for not opening up - there will be a new variant - its not a realistic view point - its worthy but not what bothers the electorate'"

Is this just another litany of whataboutism? Labour aren't in government, your incompetent bunch are.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "Looking at the polling numbers it isn't just Steph'"


Yip, about 43% of the electorate, judging by the last general election.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Is this just another litany of whataboutism? Labour aren't in government, your incompetent bunch are.'"


How do you explain Labour's desperate showing in the polls - the quotes to Nandy are correct listen to JHB show on Wednesday where she was interviewed.

She wanted to stop vaccinating the younger adults and send the vaccine's to India - no shortening of lockdown maybe a another variant, not the time to tackle the issues in India in respect of health care etc.

Labour simply are not relevant.

Another desperate attempt by Van der Leyen's biatch - you need to change the record

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14:00
Midlands
v
Crusaders
       Championship 2025-R7
15:00
Barrow
v
LondonB
15:00
Batley
v
Hunslet
15:00
Doncaster
v
Sheffield
15:00
Featherstone
v
York
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Widnes
v
Oldham
       League One 2025-R6
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Newcastle
15:00
Rochdale
v
Swinton
15:00
Workington
v
Whitehaven
18:30
Keighley
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Huddersfield
 Sat 19th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
08:30
NZ Warriors
v
Brisbane
10:35
Sydney
v
Penrith
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
20:00
Catalans
v
Salford
 Sun 20th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
05:00
Gold Coast
v
Canberra
07:05
Newcastle
v
Cronulla
 Mon 21st Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
07:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
 Thu 24th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
10:50
Brisbane
v
Canterbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
 Fri 25th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
07:00
Sydney
v
St.George
09:05
NZ Warriors
v
Newcastle
11:10
Melbourne
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
20:00
Salford
v
Leigh
 Sat 26th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Gold Coast
10:35
Penrith
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
17:30
Catalans
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R8
18:00
Featherstone
v
Toulouse
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
05:00
Canberra
v
Dolphins
07:05
Wests
v
Cronulla
       League One 2025-R7
13:00
Cornwall
v
Keighley
14:30
Crusaders
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R8
15:00
Barrow
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
LondonB
15:00
Oldham
v
Bradford
15:00
Sheffield
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R7
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Rochdale
15:00
Newcastle
v
Goole V
15:00
Workington
v
Swinton
 Fri 2nd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
09:00
Cronulla
v
Parramatta
11:05
Sydney
v
Dolphins
       League One 2025-R8
20:00
Newcastle
v
Workington
 Sat 3rd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
06:00
Souths
v
Newcastle
08:30
NZ Warriors
v
NQL Cowboys
10:45
Wests
v
St.George
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Rochdale
v
Goole V
       Championship 2025-R9
17:00
LondonB
v
York
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R9
18:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
04:50
Gold Coast
v
Canterbury
07:05
Penrith
v
Brisbane
09:25
Melbourne
v
Canberra
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
13:00
Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
       League One 2025-R8
13:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
       Championship 2025-R9
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Sheffield
15:00
Doncaster
v
Oldham
15:00
Hunslet
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Swinton
v
Crusaders
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 8th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
10:50
Parramatta
v
Dolphins
 Fri 9th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
09:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
11:00
Souths
v
Brisbane
 Sat 10th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
06:00
Canberra
v
Canterbury
08:30
St.George
v
NZ Warriors
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Penrith
       Championship 2025-R10
17:00
Oldham
v
Toulouse
 Sun 11th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
05:00
Melbourne
v
Wests
07:05
Manly
v
Cronulla
       League One 2025-R9
14:30
Crusaders
v
Newcastle
       Championship 2025-R10
15:00
Batley
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Doncaster
15:00
LondonB
v
Sheffield
15:00
Widnes
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Hunslet
       League One 2025-R9
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Cornwall
15:00
Keighley
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Midlands
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
09:00
Newcastle
v
Parramatta
11:00
Canterbury
v
Sydney
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
06:00
Dolphins
v
NZ Warriors
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Manly
10:35
Cronulla
v
Melbourne
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
05:00
Brisbane
v
St.George
07:05
Canberra
v
Gold Coast
09:15
Wests
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
10:50
Canterbury
v
Dolphins
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
11:00
Parramatta
v
Manly
       Championship 2025-R11
19:30
Sheffield
v
Hunslet
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
08:30
Penrith
v
Newcastle
10:35
Sydney
v
Cronulla
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R11
18:00
Toulouse
v
Barrow
 Sun 25th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
07:05
NZ Warriors
v
Canberra
       League One 2025-R10
14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R11
15:00
Bradford
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Batley
15:00
Oldham
v
Halifax
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
Keighley
v
Crusaders
15:00
Rochdale
v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
11:00
St.George
v
Newcastle
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
06:00
Gold Coast
v
Melbourne
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Melbourne
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Wests
10:35
Manly
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R12
17:00
LondonB
v
Widnes
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R12
18:00
Batley
v
Toulouse
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
05:00
Souths
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Penrith
v
Parramatta
09:15
Sydney
v
Canberra
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       Championship 2025-R12
15:00
Barrow
v
Featherstone
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Hunslet
v
Oldham
15:00
York
v
Sheffield
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
Newcastle
v
Keighley
15:00
Workington
v
Dewsbury
 Thu 5th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
10:50
Newcastle
v
Manly
 Fri 6th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
09:00
Melbourne
v
NQL Cowboys
11:00
Dolphins
v
St.George
 Sat 7th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
07:00
Canterbury
v
Parramatta
08:30
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
10:35
Brisbane
v
Gold Coast
 Sun 8th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
05:00
Canberra
v
Souths
07:05
Wests
v
Penrith
 Thu 12th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
10:50
Cronulla
v
St.George
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
11:00
Gold Coast
v
Manly
       League One 2025-R12
19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
08:30
Newcastle
v
Sydney
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Dolphins
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
07:05
Souths
v
Canterbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       Championship 2025-R13
15:00
Barrow
v
Sheffield
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Bradford
v
York
15:00
Featherstone
v
Hunslet
15:00
Widnes
v
Halifax
15:00
Toulouse
v
LondonB
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
 Thu 19th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
Castleford
v
Hull KR
 Fri 20th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R16
11:00
Wests
v
Canberra
       Championship 2025-R14
19:45
Bradford
v
Batley
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
St.Helens
v
Leeds
20:00
Wakefield
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R14
20:00
Featherstone
v
Halifax
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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