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Quote: Sal Paradise "I think the Brexit party could do well in the North - they have the same problem as Labour swop Corbyn for Farage.'"


I think that Corbyn is the root of Labours problems but, I'd take Corbyn over Farage all day long.
Farage is nothing more than a self publicist but, plenty have been taken in by his rhetoric.

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“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21 A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "
The other issue I see for Labour is the number of prominent women - this is not a sexist comment - Abbott, Thornbury, Long-Bailey, Angela Eagle, Dawn Butler - these all come with baggage that will be exposed in an election run up. The less said about Jess Phillips the better.'"

Of course it is sexist. If they were men you wouldn't be grouping them together for criticism. It is the very definition of sexism.

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Quote: tigertot "Of course it is sexist. If they were men you wouldn't be grouping them together for criticism. It is the very definition of sexism.'"


No its not - the women are very prominent in the Labour front bench and they will get a lot of air time - the only Tories you will see are Leadsom and Patel - the rest are men. You will see a lot more females in the spotlight from Labour than you will the Tories.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I think that Corbyn is the root of Labours problems but, I'd take Corbyn over Farage all day long.
Farage is nothing more than a self publicist but, plenty have been taken in by his rhetoric.'"


Completely agree - Corbyn is a dreamer - he dreams of the UK being predominantly public state where the socialist-elite lord it over the rest.

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Quote: Sal Paradise " You will see a lot more females in the spotlight from Labour than you will the Tories.'"

So why is that an issue? Why is it not a bigger issue that the Tories are run by a privileged male, white elite?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "No its not - the women are very prominent in the Labour front bench and they will get a lot of air time - the only Tories you will see are Leadsom and Patel - the rest are men. You will see a lot more females in the spotlight from Labour than you will the Tories.'"

This argument is mindblowing, even by your standards. There's something underlying that's utterly obviously wrong with it but you're completely blind to it.

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Quote: tigertot "So why is that an issue? Why is it not a bigger issue that the Tories are run by a privileged male, white elite?'"


OK
Diane Abbott - need we say anymore
Dawn Butler - plays the race card at every tweet similar to David Lamy
Eagle - the manifestation of Corbyn's hard line left wing foot soldier
Thornbury - divisive remainer who struggles to understand democracy
Long-Bailey - screechy looks like she has swallowed a lemon
Jess Phillips - shameless self promoter with nothing good to promote who said she wants to stab a Tory then cries wolf tears about language she doesn't like

These ladies will be trotted out at regular intervals by Jeremy - they will harm Labour. At least the Tory men understand how to project themselves to the media and can deflect the likes of Marr.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "This argument is mindblowing, even by your standards. There's something underlying that's utterly obviously wrong with it but you're completely blind to it.'"


Your one of those who calls anyone who criticises the EU a racist - everything you say needs to understood in the context of who is saying it icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Sal Paradise "At least the Tory men understand how to project themselves to the media'"


Mark Francois knows how to project himself - like a truly annoying, unflushable turd. He nails it every time.

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Quote: King Street Cat "Mark Francois knows how to project himself - like a truly annoying, unflushable turd. He nails it every time.'"


Could not agree more - doubt you will see him at all nationally in this campaign - the Tories are far too switched on for that - Labour will be rolling Diane Abbott though - let's hope they ask her about education icon_biggrin.gif

Who was it that brought in tuition fees?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Your one of those who calls anyone who criticises the EU a racist - everything you say needs to understood in the context of who is saying it (I note you avoid engaging on the point).

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Quote: Sal Paradise "OK
Diane Abbott - need we say anymore
Dawn Butler - plays the race card at every tweet similar to David Lamy
Eagle - the manifestation of Corbyn's hard line left wing foot soldier
Thornbury - divisive remainer who struggles to understand democracy
Long-Bailey - screechy looks like she has swallowed a lemon
Jess Phillips - shameless self promoter with nothing good to promote who said she wants to stab a Tory then cries wolf tears about language she doesn't like

These ladies will be trotted out at regular intervals by Jeremy - they will harm Labour. At least the Tory men understand how to project themselves to the media and can deflect the likes of Marr.'"

Even if there was something tangible in what you say the fact that you specifically identify these people as women shows just how backward you are. It's not just you, it's the Nazi supporting paper you read that portrays them as such, & you, & your gammon ilk, are so shallow you cannot recognise it. Tell me, why did you feel the need to identify your perceived defects in women & not a grouping of priviliged white men?
Quote: Sal Paradise "Long-Bailey - screechy looks like she has swallowed a lemon'"

Even by your bigoted neanderthal standards that is odious. Nothing to do with her qualities as an MP or person, just her appearance.
Quote: Sal Paradise "Jess Phillips - shameless self promoter'"

You support a self-obsessed, narcissist, woman abuser, serial liar as PM. Is Jess a bit rough for you? Do you feel threatened by extremely hard working women who balance a family life? Are you more comfortable with your golf club sexist bores?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "OK
Diane Abbott - need we say anymore
Dawn Butler - plays the race card at every tweet similar to David Lamy
Eagle - the manifestation of Corbyn's hard line left wing foot soldier
Thornbury - divisive remainer who struggles to understand democracy
Long-Bailey - screechy looks like she has swallowed a lemon
Jess Phillips - shameless self promoter with nothing good to promote who said she wants to stab a Tory then cries wolf tears about language she doesn't like

These ladies will be trotted out at regular intervals by Jeremy - they will harm Labour. At least the Tory men understand how to project themselves to the media and can deflect the likes of Marr.'"


I think that you may need to see someone.
How could you make a list of politicians "with issues" and not include Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Raab, Patel, in fact, most of the ERG and yet you choose only to select women from the Labour Party - unbelievable, even from you. d040.gif

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Labour have always hidden their media averse folk.
It used to be John Prescott, last time and probably this it will be Len McClusky.

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Quote: Father Ted "Labour have always hidden their media averse folk.
It used to be John Prescott, last time and probably this it will be Len McClusky.'"

Why should McClusky be the voice of Labour, he isn't an MP. Despite what the Daily Mail tells you. Perhaps Dominic Cummins or Anthony Bamford should front the Tory campaign?

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