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Quote: Chris28 "So why do a number of Muslims think they have to attack Western countries?'"


Because Europe is a cancer, Islam is the answer.

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Quote: Mintball "You do?

Could you post links to all these increasing accounts of attacks like this, please. I must have missed them.'"



Oh sorry. I get it. You've misunderstood what I've said and linked my comment to a beheading. There have been various attacks over the years, hasn't there minty. By the religious extremists you so despise.

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Quote: Dally "My guess is yes but with a little help from their friends (ie manipulative radical Muslims who used them and drugs).'"


Well the "little help from their friends" if there were any and who they were are the important questions.

If they acted alone I see little difference between this and the equally abhorrent killings of the two policewomen in Manchester.

That wasn't classed as terrorism and this should not be either whatever the perpetrators say was their motive. Classifying it as terrorism elevates (if that is the right word) the crime to a status it does not warrant.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I switched off when the bloke kept repeating the mantra about British foreign policy 'in the Muslim world'. Had he said that the terrorists had to take responsibility for themselves for their own radicalisation, acknowledging that all adult human beings had the ability to make choices (which they do), then I would have continued to listen. But I'm not interested in excuses for the kind of behaviour witnessed in London yesterday. If spokespeople on TV continue to blame the British government's foreign policy for Islamist terrorism then why are they surprised if Muslim clerics brush the same under the carpet (to use the TV spokesperson's own words).'"


Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.

We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.

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Quote: Dally "Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.

We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.'"


Perhaps we could introduce some sort of mandatory salute as well.

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Quote: Dally "Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.

We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.'"

Well anyone who takes British Citizenship already has to do that. Are you suggesting that those born British should be required to do the same? When precisely?

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Quote: Chris28 "Well anyone who takes British Citizenship already has to do that. Are you suggesting that those born British should be required to do the same? When precisely?'"


Yes. Public ceremonies held weekly.

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Quote: Dally "Yes. Public ceremonies held weekly.'"

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Perhaps they could be televised too

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Quote: Chris28 "Well anyone who takes British Citizenship already has to do that. Are you suggesting that those born British should be required to do the same? When precisely?'"


I think he just means the ones who are darker than 'warm beige' on the Dulux colour chart. What I'd like to know is, when those who refuse are 'asked to leave', where will they be sent?

"Hey, France, these people aren't British enough for us. You can have them."

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Quote: Chris28 "

They could all compete to see who is the most British, then the public could vote on who gets deported and to where.

"I see your cream tea in a thatched cottage and raise you a bout of fisticuffs in Newcastle town centre with a bloke who looked at your bird."

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Quote: Rock God X "I think he just means the ones who are darker '"


No. Should apply to all.

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Quote: Dally "No. Should apply to all.'"


Please, please tell me you're being flippant and that this isn't a serious suggestion. With anyone else I'd assume it was a wind up, but you post so many staggeringly stupid things that I can't tell which are supposed to be serious and which aren't.

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Can I just point out that this is not a terrorist attack.

At the least, it's a racial assault ( or would be if it was white on black), at worst, it's a religious attack/assault. The 2 beng questioned are religious fanatics. You find these bigots all over the world.

Rip to the soldier.

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Quote: Dally "Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.

We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.'"
Quote: Dally "No. Should apply to all.'"
I don't want to do that.
I'm English, My parents are English, All 4 of my Grandparents are English and I don't want to go anywhere.
Problem?

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Quote: Dally "Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.

We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.'"


At the risk of evoking Godwin but WTF?

Why should I, a born and bred citizen of the UK declare allegiance to something I may not agree with?

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20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 7 216 84 132 12
Catalans 7 172 86 86 12
Warrington 7 214 98 116 10
Hull KR 7 182 83 99 10
St.Helens 7 138 58 80 10
Huddersfield 7 176 126 50 8
 
Salford 7 151 154 -3 8
Leeds 7 116 122 -6 8
Leigh 7 122 154 -32 2
Castleford 7 98 228 -130 2
Hull FC 7 86 252 -166 2
LondonB 7 70 296 -226 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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