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J Ch - my point was not about how the bread is produced but that allegedly unsold (and so no longer "fresh"icon_wink.gif bread is then repackaged as sliced after its otherwise use by date.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "Some of the bread is frozen and "baked off" in store, just the same as it is in, say, Lidl. Other bread is made in the traditional way with flour, water, etc - the yeast is stored at the required temperature in the bakery...'"

Sounds like you are saying that the Chorleywood process is "Traditional", not to me it ain't.
85% (or thereabouts) of supermarket bread is made by the Chorleywood process and, frankly, it's tasteless rubbish.

Quote: Man in Madrid "If you're near Kensington, nip into one of the "upmarket" Tesco Stores - they now work in partnership with Euphorium Bakery, who supply real artisan stuff.'"

This will be the Euphonium in which Tesco bought a stake recently?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Sounds like you are saying that the Chorleywood process is "Traditional", not to me it ain't.
85% (or thereabouts) of supermarket bread is made by the Chorleywood process and, frankly, it's tasteless rubbish.

This will be the Euphonium in which Tesco bought a stake recently?'"


Would suggest that >90% of the bread sold in the UK is produced in this manner.

Euphorium is different - it bakes bread the "traditional" way, and only supplies a limited number of Tesco stores in the vicinity of there bakery.

The fact that Tesco own some of Euphorium is not relevant.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "The fact that Tesco own some of Euphorium is not relevant.'"


So, one week Tesco invest in an artisan bakery, the next said artisan bakery is supplying Tesco. No not relevant at all...

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Quote: Man in Madrid "Would suggest that >90% of the bread sold in the UK is produced in this manner...'"

Indeed but that does not make it "traditional".

Quote: Man in Madrid "Euphorium is different - it bakes bread the "traditional" way, and only supplies a limited number of Tesco stores in the vicinity of there bakery...'"

Which traditional way? ... I ask because you have previously conflated Chorleywood with traditional.

Quote: Man in Madrid "The fact that Tesco own some of Euphorium is not relevant.'"

I think it is, especially as you described it as a partnership.

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Euphorium supplies Artisan bread to a limited number of stores that are classed as "upmarket" locations, and can sell at the increased price point. It is delivered from the Islington bakery twice each day. It is scratch-baked from raw ingredients each day.

Euphorium have actually been supplying Tesco in Kensington for, I believe, over 2 years now - well before the investment.

Is the fact that Tesco invest in businesses a bad thing?: Harris & Hoole, Dobbies Garden Centres, Blinkbox, Dunnhumby, and more recently the outright purchase of Giraffe shows a commitment to both diversify, and in the longer term possibly enhance the shopping experience.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "

Is the fact that Tesco invest in businesses a bad thing?

Nope, but customers don't like the wool being pulled over their eyes, see the Harris and Hoole debacle for details.

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Oh and you'll notice that Tesco isn't so keen to have its shadow brand, One Stop identified as being a wholly owned subsidiary either. Why's that then?

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Quote: Big Graeme "Oh and you'll notice that Tesco isn't so keen to have its shadow brand, One Stop identified as being a wholly owned subsidiary either. Why's that then?'"


Because it's aimed at a completely different demographic, selling a different set of SKUs via an entirely separate supply chain - some of the OS stores generate >80% of their turnover from tobacco sales, as the majority of locations came from the purchase of regional newsagents.

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Quote: Man in Madrid "Because it's aimed at a completely different demographic, selling a different set of SKUs via an entirely separate supply chain - some of the OS stores generate >80% of their turnover from tobacco sales, as the majority of locations came from the purchase of regional newsagents.'"


That's very corporate of you...

The vast majority of these stores were part of the T&S group that was bought by Tesco, the didn't put the chain together, they have added to it by buying chains like Europa and Cullens. None were newsagents.

So Tesco hasn't been able to bring its supply chain knowledge and clout to One Stop? It hasn't been able to negotiate better rents due to its size?

In reality they sell many of the same lines as Tesco Express and Metro yet have a much bigger mark up (rlan average of 14% morerl), but they don't want the average customer to know that after all many of these store are located in the poorer areas of town.

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Quote: Big Graeme "That's very corporate of you...

The vast majority of these stores were part of the T&S group that was bought by Tesco, the didn't put the chain together, they have added to it by buying chains like Europa and Cullens. None were newsagents.

So Tesco hasn't been able to bring its supply chain knowledge and clout to One Stop? It hasn't been able to negotiate better rents due to its size?

In reality they sell many of the same lines as Tesco Express and Metro yet have a much bigger mark up (rlan average of 14% morerl), but they don't want the average customer to know that after all many of these store are located in the poorer areas of town.'"


Yes, I'm corporate through and through.

The most recent acquisition for One Stop was Mills, which were predominantly newsagents.

As I said, the distribution footprint is completely separate to Tesco. Buying is in house, as is corporate purchasing. There is no combined leverage of scale.

I spent a few weeks in OS head office earlier this year, before coming to Thailand, and whilst there are definite synergies, there is currently no desire to integrate. It's a wholly owned subsidiary that is run as a completely separate business.

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Anyone know what an "out of code" item is defined as by Tesco?

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Quote: Dally "Anyone know what an "out of code" item is defined as by Tesco?'"


JUST EAT THE FS#KING STUFF DALLY AND STOP WORRYING!!!

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Quote: Man in Madrid "Would suggest that >90% of the bread sold in the UK is produced in this manner.'"

According to Wiki it's around 80% in the UK.

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Quote: Kosh "According to Wiki it's around 80% in the UK.'"

Sorry - typo: bl00dy Ipad! Yes, around 80%.

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St.Helens
20:00
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 Fri 25th Apr 2025
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 Sat 26th Apr 2025
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Castleford
17:30
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 Sun 27th Apr 2025
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 Sat 3rd May 2025
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19:30
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17:30
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 Thu 15th May 2025
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Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
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 Sat 17th May 2025
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15:00
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Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
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Warrington
17:30
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Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
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Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
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Hull KR
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Leeds
17:30
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Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
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Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
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Hull KR-Castleford
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Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
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15:00
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17:30
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This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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