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Don't underestimate the power of shame in some countries, India being one of those high up on the list.

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Quote: Wheels "How do you know it was just this short sequence of events that caused her suicide? How do you know that she didn't have many other issues going on in her life that contributed to her suicide?

You don't. No one does. Speculating is pointless, much like 90% of this thread.'"


Don't be silly. Mrs Saldanha’s family today demanded answers from the hospital over the circumstances that led to her death, saying an internal inquiry is not enough. Very clearly, this means that it was the incident and sequence of events at the hospital which is the focus of their demand. The only person doing any speculating is YOU, as there is no suggestion of any other issue leading to this tragedy, and you are pointlessly ignoring the obvious.

You say I don't "know". eusa_wall.gif

You say "No-one does". Well, her husband is reportedly "seething" with the presenters and the hospital management, and I venture to suggest that having read her suicide note, he may have a fairly good idea.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "husband is reportedly "seething" with the presenters and the hospital management, and I venture to suggest that having read her suicide note, he may have a fairly good idea.'"


either that, or he's got ££££'s in his eyes?

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From my experience of those whose spouses have died in tragic circumstances, I can only say that I have yet to come across a single one in that category.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "From my experience of those whose spouses have died in tragic circumstances, I can only say that I have yet to come across a single one in that category.'"


If you're responding to me, have you seen the news that the Austrlian broadcaster will donate "at least £320,000" to her family?

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Quote: Standee "If you're responding to me, have you seen the news that the Austrlian broadcaster will donate "at least £320,000" to her family?'"


why are they donating anything?

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Quote: World of Redboy "What a mickey poor ignorant crass post that is.'"

icon_lol.gif I knew a knob-jockey would come around sooner or later. Congratulations.

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Quote: Standee "If you're responding to me, have you seen the news that the Austrlian broadcaster will donate "at least £320,000" to her family?'"


Yes. Why?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes. Why?'"


If you were a cynic you might conclude it's a desperate attempt at damage limitation and to curry favour in the eyes of all the major sponsors that have jumped ship since the incident.

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Mmmm, curry flavour.........?
D'oh!

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Quote: Stand-Offish "Mmmm, curry flavour.........?
D'oh!'"

Had a really nice Thai Curry in Carlisle on Friday Night. One of those "twice tinglers". It gets your lips and tongue when you eat it, then the morning after it gets your.......well you know the rest icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Dreamer "Had a really nice Thai Curry in Carlisle on Friday Night. One of those "twice tinglers". It gets your lips and tongue when you eat it, then the morning after it gets your.......well you know the rest How spooky is that?
Peregrinations on Hadrian's Wall and then a curry in Carlisle.
Heaven!
Was in Carlisle myself a year or so back for a night.
Two Wetherspoon pubs virtually alongside each other on the same street, they didn't have the curry I wanted in one but they did in the other, very convenient.
Nice place Carlisle ... sorry thread drift!

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Quote: Stand-Offish "How spooky is that?
Peregrinations on Hadrian's Wall and then a curry in Carlisle.
'"


Stopped at "Twice Brewed", nice beer and more curry icon_biggrin.gif Vindolanda and Housteads Forts are both close and well worth seeing. There is a 7 mile circular walk from Twice Brewed taking in both forts and a very scenic section of the wall. (sorry for thread drift)

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My first thoughts on hearing about this incident was "what a stroke of luck for the Hospital Authorities!" Their apparent failure to follow long established protocols regarding access and Media intrusion to members of the Royal Family, could now be conveniently forgotten in the witch hunt fanned by a post Leveson Press, all eager to display their "lessons have been learned credentials"

My second one; what reasonably normal person kills themselves over a work incident, for which their employers consider too minor to even be taken through the Disciplinary Process?

Unlike those amongst us, who mix in rumour and supposition with a healthy dollop of their own inflated opinion and present it as facts, I think there is a lot more to this to come out in the wash.

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Quote: rumpelstiltskin "...
My second one; what reasonably normal person kills themselves over a work incident, for which their employers consider too minor to even be taken through the Disciplinary Process?'"

Can you link to any place where the employers ever described the incident as "minor"? I am aware that they indicated they were supporting rather than disciplining her, although I don't get the feeling that her family has enthusiastically embraced that claim, but would find it odd if by some distance the biggest storm ever to hit that hospital was ever described by them as "minor". And of course the whole point, which you improbably seem to miss, is that it was and is indeed a global storm, which shows no sign of abating, every newspaper, lead on every news across the globe, all because she was fooled and put the call through. If you were the nurse, are you seriously telling me you'd view the furore of which you were at the epicentre as a "minor work incident"?

Really?.

Quote: rumpelstiltskin "...... I think there is a lot more to this to come out in the wash.'"

I'm sure you do, but what, if you're implying you have a good idea? I have already seen nutty conspiracy theories that the nurse was assassinated and it's all a cover-up, but then nowadays it is [ide rigueur[/i for the lunatics to come out of the asylum for a while whenever there's a good conspiracy to be theorised.

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v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
v
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 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
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v
Warrington
17:30
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v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
       Championship 2025-R11
19:30
Sheffield
v
Hunslet
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R11
18:00
Toulouse
v
Barrow
 Sun 25th May 2025
       League One 2025-R10
14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R11
15:00
Bradford
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Batley
15:00
Oldham
v
Halifax
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
Keighley
v
Crusaders
15:00
Rochdale
v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R12
17:00
LondonB
v
Widnes
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R12
18:00
Batley
v
Toulouse
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       Championship 2025-R12
15:00
Barrow
v
Featherstone
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Hunslet
v
Oldham
15:00
York
v
Sheffield
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
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v
Keighley
15:00
Workington
v
Dewsbury
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
       League One 2025-R12
19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       Championship 2025-R13
15:00
Barrow
v
Sheffield
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Bradford
v
York
15:00
Featherstone
v
Hunslet
15:00
Widnes
v
Halifax
15:00
Toulouse
v
LondonB
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
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20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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