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Quote: Kosh "You have to admire Kirkstaller's ability to completely hijack any thread at will.'"


Quote: Kosh "'tis fun though...'"


It can be, but if you look any more than superficially, kirkstaller is just on a wind-up mission, and it isn't much fun putting points for debate to him, since (as I have repeatedly demonstrated conclusively) he will avoid a specific response to a specific question like the plague. And then his tactics are depressingly standard, if pressed, he will either make increasingly absurd metaphysical claims, or produce purely moronic self-fulfilling "answers" ("because he is god and he just can"; "because it says so in my bible"; or some such irritating non-responses. Or else say he can't be bothered looking up your questions, and could you please repeat them. Then he will go back to square one with his avoidance technique.

The one bit I haven't quite worked out is what it is he hopes to achieve. Even he must have worked out by now that his views on thing like this are viewed as risible, and held in utter contempt by his chosen target audience. It is pointless him re-spouting the drivel. And yet he does. The likelihood to me is he must aim to wind people up. And yes some of the stuff is fun, but the funniest aspect for me is some of his "god" explanations, such as the six days bit etc., which are laugh-out-loud, coffee-spluttering barkingly mad-funny, and it isn't necessary to respond to his drivel in order to have a good laugh.

And it's also fun to just occasionally give him a poke, to perplex him for amusement. Which I may shortly do.
Quote: Kosh "Joy unconfined.

Having been absent for a few days due to work and a blethering cold, I return to find you've all been feeding the trolls.

Still, I suppose it keeps them out of mischief.'"


But you work for Satan, and your imminent return to the thread was correctly predicted by kirkstadamus, this must conclusively prove something or other. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: kirkstaller "No, Genesis 1 is quite clear that humans came after animals but not from animals. To say that we are animals now is pure lunacy.'"

Is it? This must mean you can point us to evidence that we are not animals. I await this, breathlessly.

Quote: kirkstaller "But your ‘scientific evidence’ is not consistent with scripture, nor is it necessarily the truth. For centuries scientists had us all convinced that the sun orbited the Earth. No doubt that was the ‘truth’ of the day. '"

And what is the "truth" of it, and precisely where do you get that information from? You can't be alluding to non-religious, scientific discoveries - can you?


This inane comment does nothing other than demonstrate a lack of maturity on your part.

Quote: kirkstaller "How can we be apes when apes are animals? '"


This is like asking how can someone who is English be a Brit when Brits are Europeans. I cannot believe anybody could be ask such a dumb question, although given your previous comment regarding humans not being apes because we are humans nothing you say surprises me any more. Do you actually think about what you post before you actually type?

Creationists who ask why if we "evolved from monkeys" there are still monkeys around sound like intellectuals in comparison to what you have written.

Quote: kirkstaller "My 3 year old son knows what animals are. You obviously don't.'"


Given that you somehow think that humans do not belong to the kingdom of Animalia I suggest that I have a much better grasp of what constitutes an animal than you do. I hope you do not pass down such ignorance to your son.

Quote: kirkstaller "My 3 year old just laughed when I told him a fully grown human didn't know the difference between people and animals.'"


I'd assume he laughed because he realised that even at three years of age he is already more intelligent than his dad. The difference between people and animals is about the same as the difference between Bradfordians and Europeans

Quote: kirkstaller "Seriously, I see where you're coming from in that we have similar genetics. However, whilst it may appear that we are part of the same family, where you incorrectly see 'evolution', I see God's fingerprints. Tell me, if you were molding a batch of figurines from the same clay, there would be similarities between the physical properties of each one, wouldn't there? If you were painting many different styles of pictures,they'd all have the same signature, wouldn't they?'"


There is far more to genetics than just similarity amongst species. Creationists may be able to argue away genetic similarities with "same genes, same designer" however there is far more to the genetic evidence than mere similarities.

The link I provided provides examples of exactly where creationism is unable provide a sufficient explanation for genetic similarities. Engenous retroviral insertion is one of the clearest examples which cannot be explained by creationists.



No it doesn't if humans and other animals shared for instance a different genetic code then this would not refute creationism however had such an observation occurred then evolution would be falsified. #similarities do not in anyway mean we have the same creator as they are not a prediction of creationism, they are however a prediction of evolutionary theory and such observations could have falsified evolution had they been different.

Quote: kirkstaller "Christian scientists did, yes.'"


Which is completely irrelevant to the point I made. However it was Christian doctrine which was used as justification for the sun orbiting the earth.

Quote: kirkstaller "Scientists have demonstrated no such thing.'"


Yes they have. Simply pretending the evidence that shows that you creation myth is just that a myth and that evolution provides the best explanation of the biological data does not exist will make it go away.

Quote: kirkstaller "Care to tell me how creationism fails to explain each of the above?'"


I don't have time to go into full detail, however creationism cannot explain the genetic similarities amongst living organisms as the above link shows. Creationism also cannot explain the existence of transitional fossils hence why creationists deny the existence of transitional fossils despite the fact there are numerous examples of such fossils

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Quote: Big Graeme "And remind us what your church did to those who said otherwise...'"


And reply came there none. Archetypal kirkstaller avoidance technique.

The worrying thing is the lack of intellectual capacity to consider anything different from brainwashed prejudices and mantras.

Like the refusal to consider that, had kirkstaller lived in those days, he would have been one of the people lighting the bonfires, and the point being, he would have been spouting forth 100% exactly the same sort of "God told me it's true" bullcrap about the Earth/Sun system as he is in the 21st C. spouting about animals and evolution.

Of course, there are plenty of places still in the 21st C. where vocally criticising religious shibboleths - or even involuntarily infringing - can indeed still get you killed. This is what is scary - that if kirkstaller and we lived in a country where fundamentalist primitive religion was the law, people just like kirkstaller would be the religious police.

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Here's another question kirkstaller will not answerbrand new species that have evolved within the last 150 years?rl

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "And reply came there none. Archetypal kirkstaller avoidance technique.'"


I thought the question was rhetorical, but here's my answer anyway.

'My church' didn't do anything of the sort. Don't blame me for the wrongdoings of the Roman Catholic religion.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Like the refusal to consider that, had kirkstaller lived in those days, he would have been one of the people lighting the bonfires'"


I don't think so, thou shall not murder is pretty unequivocal.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "and the point being, he would have been spouting forth 100% exactly the same sort of "God told me it's true" bullcrap about the Earth/Sun system as he is in the 21st C. spouting about animals and evolution.'"


Shoulda woulda coulda. You can't say with any degree of accuracy what I would have done. That's just idle speculation.

Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Of course, there are plenty of places still in the 21st C. where vocally criticising religious shibboleths - or even involuntarily infringing - can indeed still get you killed. This is what is scary - that if kirkstaller and we lived in a country where fundamentalist primitive religion was the law, people just like kirkstaller would be the religious police.'"


I am no Pharisee.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Here's another question kirkstaller will not answerbrand new species that have evolved within the last 150 years?rl


Nothing there which contradicts Genesis.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Here's another question kirkstaller will not answerbrand new species that have evolved within the last 150 years?rl


Creationists usually respond to examples of evolution being observed by claiming that new species are still the same "kind" of animal. The problem for creationists is that they are unable to provide a scientific definition of the term "kind".

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I'm still confused as to why 'God' turned herbivorous dinosaurs into carnivorous dinosaurs because a human (whether you accept humans are apes or not) ate an apple. Perhaps kirkstaller could explain it to me.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Nothing there which contradicts Genesis.'"

Let me get this straight.
Your view is that there's nothing in the evolution of new species that contradicts Genesis.
Your view is that man didn't evolve to become man, he was created as man by god.

So, what is your view about myriad of mutations of human genetic code that have occurred over ten of thousands of years, do they not tell us that man has evolved as he has migrated around the globe?
I'm guessing that you do accept that man has evolved, but that it is your view that whilst man has evolved, he has only evolved from the originally-god-created form of man.

Where do other forms such as australopithicus and neanderthal man fit into your view?
Were they men or animals?

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