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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "... So, back to the reasons for Patnick to be stripped of his knighthood, Mintball? Or don't you have any?'"


I did not offer that link as reasons to strip Patnick of his knighthood.

Do try harder next time to follow a discussion.

The 'reason' would be because someone in a position of authority should not simply go around passing on highly damaging hearsay as 'the truth'.

At best, he was/is a gullible imbecile.

At worst, I suspect his worldview coloured his happiness at being told such things and he determined to make as much use of them as possible.

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Quote: McLaren_Field "Its an opinion of someone who lived through those times as an adult and speaks about what he saw and felt during those times and on that day.

Its not a university text book on social and political history but its no less valid simply because its an eye witness account, indeed there is an argument that university texts should be all about eye witness accounts and not simply academic analysis, and the MPs who recognise that their constituents are what really matters and not what their political dogma states are usually the ones who get re-elected.'"


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Quote: McLaren_Field "Its an opinion of someone who lived through those times as an adult and speaks about what he saw and felt during those times and on that day.
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Precisely.

It's one mans take on events as he remembers them.
I wouldn't agree verbatim with the piece but he's certainly not far off the mark in the general crux.

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Quote: WIZEB "Precisely.

It's one mans take on events as he remembers them.
I wouldn't agree verbatim with the piece but he's certainly not far off the mark in the general crux.'"


He said two hours wasn't enough time to get too drunk. BS. (Ignoring the fact that car and coach passengers could have been tanked up during the journey as well, and the fact that many of the supporters would have been using the motorways, not Snake Pass, and Liverpool have supporters all the country.)

He said that touts were virtually giving away tickets. WTFever.

He said that hooliganism had been "organically ended" because all the hooligans had moved on to acid house and E. What a total load of b*****s.

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Quote: Mintball "I did not offer that link as reasons to strip Patnick of his knighthood.

Do try harder next time to follow a discussion.'"


I never said you did. I was following the discussion fine, and simply asking for evidence and/or reasoning, seeing as you weren't offering any.

Quote: Mintball "The 'reason' would be because someone in a position of authority should not simply go around passing on highly damaging hearsay as 'the truth'.

At best, he was/is a gullible imbecile.'"


You have no evidence that he did pass on hearsay as the truth. All you have is MacKenzie fingering him as his source.

Even if Patnick did offer rumours as fact, any decent journalist would have asked follow up questions to find out how deep his knowledge was. They'd have tried to find the police officers who made the initial allegations to determine when and where the incidents happened. They'd have been asking to see footage of the areas to determine that the accounts were accurate. An MP, who clearly wasn't at the event, is obviously not a reliable source to print the story. He should have simply been a starting point of an investigation, not the main source to a front page story.

Quote: Mintball "At worst, I suspect his worldview coloured his happiness at being told such things and he determined to make as much use of them as possible.'"


I suspect that your worldview colours your happiness so much that you are doing exactly what you accuse Patnick of doing.

The jury is out on Patnick until further evidence is offered. There's no proof he's done anything wrong.

But you and MacKenzie are pathetic examples of the journalistic profession.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "... You have no evidence that he did pass on hearsay as the truth. All you have is MacKenzie fingering him as his source...'"


So Patnick's own grovelling apology is not "evidence", then?

Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho ".... An MP, who clearly wasn't at the event ...'"


Should have STFU – unless or until he had evidence.

Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "The jury is out on Patnick until further evidence is offered. There's no proof he's done anything wrong...'"


Well indeed. He hasn't even admitted he did so. 8.67041015625:10
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