Show us the evidence, I don’t believe there is any because it’s not true.

The NHS (public ownership) spend £2,892 per person, with everyone entitled to free healthcare.

In the USA (private ownership) they spend £7,617 per person, despite millions been entitled to no healthcare and left to die if they become sick.

Great post thanks for sharing your experience.
This just highlights how terrible privatising our utilities has been, they are a monopoly privatising them was only ever going to make us worse off, we can’t afford not to nationalise them.

If you lived in the UK when big chunks were nationalised you would see how inefficient these industries really were. Not just that how stagnated they were. BT is a far better company, more innovative more service driven than it ever was under public ownership.

Most would accept France has the best health care service, the best invested in Europe. Its spend per person is £2,050 - it makes the NHS some 40% less efficient. How often are all the theatres used through the night - seldom, so when you talk lean the NHS is miles of being lean.

BT is a dinosaur.

There is no way that Labour will get anywhere near a majority and will probably lose dozens of seats compared with last time. So talk of nationalisation is purely hypothetical.

Its less of a dinosaur than it was - as a big company it will lack the agility of a smaller more focused firm but its in a different league to what it was.

Agreed - Labour seem to have changed tack on Brexit - they will hiding all the pro-remain cabinet members, they have already hidden Thornberry, Abbott, Buttler, Starmer, etc - see a common thread!!

The NHS will never be lean until all those CEO type levels of jobs for the boys managers are taken out and replaced by nursing professionals.

And just remind me of the annual cost for private supply doctors and nurses at ten times the basic hourly rate?

Again, are there any facts to quote or studies to cite about outcomes and spend?
You right wingers make a lot of unsupported assertions but never seem to back them up with evidence.

They're usually taken from Daily Mail or Telegraph headlines.

Like the Tories stating that on average, every EU immigrant costs around £4500.
However, they neglected to mention the fact that on average they contribute over £7000, making them well worth having over here, how very forgetful of them.

Ironically, the controlled immigration from outside the EU, shows a net deficit, in cash terms, for each immigrant.
Neither of these figures takes account of the effect on overseas students.

I mentioned the failed NHS IT project that Labour awarded to an American firm - yes Labour - than cost 10bn and was never completed - you didn't even bother to comment on that - why because it doesn't suit your argument

I mention the minimal use of operating theatres which are unused more than used - but you still insist the NHS is lean - give us all a break - in a lean organisation this asset would be sweated.

You actually haven't got a clue what you are talking about have you? but you sign off the payroll payments!!

So I see N Power is struggling due to the incredibly competitive nature of the domestic energy market and the price cap in place.

So how is Labour going to turn this around when buys all these firms - remove price capping? It certainly wont be running them more efficiently

Excuse my ignorance on this,but how will the Labour Party,who,after 13 years in government left the country broke,be able to persuade all of those mega-wealthy private owners to just leave their highly lucrative private ownership and wave goodbye to all of their easy profits?

How much in government bonds will all of these private money-making machines accept.

Just one foreign owner,of one water company,may require some persuasion to say goodbye to such easy money

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There isn’t the staff to man the theatres fully, most of the surgeons etc put more hours into their private work than NHS work.

In principle the NHS is already run as a de facto private company by the tories , with typically poor management.