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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"It was a stitch up so the police federation had ammunition to attack the Govt with as payback for cuts to policing.
But now they have been found out.
'Pleb' - couldn't of fabricated a better word to be honest, as in the opinion of Tory haters like 'Him' and 'Jerry Chicken', he would have definitely used a word like this. Only he didn't, it was lies. If the police had said he used the C word, people just wouldn't have been as inclined to believe it. Very conniving.'"
So why not go for a target more relevant to the Police Federation, like perhaps the Home Secretary ?
And why not release the evidence ?
The smokescreen and football supporter politics mentality has sucked you in good and proper hasn't it ?
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| Quote Him="Him"Dear me. If you watch the CCTV footage, you can see people passing by the gate outside. Since the quality is poor and the first set of footage that Mitchell released is from a distance it's not easy to see but on the second set of footage that Mitchell released (minus 40 seconds worth of footage in between the two) there can be seen at least 3 people outside the gate, either passing by or standing to watch/look down Downing Street. But if you want to just blindly believe that there's only 1 person there then that's up to you.
As for making things up well do you now admit that you made up the assertion that the police officers said there were "crowds" outside the gates?
Or making up that there was only 1 person outside the gates?
Something which even you have backtracked on and then made up again on this very thread!
The complete incident last roughly about a minute, 40 seconds of which is missing. On very poor quality CCTV footage with no sound released by the person who wants his job back.
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You've not seen the footage filmed outside the gate looking down on it from a camera positioned in Whitehall ? It's really good quality - you can easily see the cracks on the empty pavement.
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| So, the e mail, which we now know came from an off-duty copper posing as a member of the public, was sent BEFORE the police log was leaked. We now know that this person was not present at the time of the incident and that their e mail was a complete and utter falsehood.
The contents of this e mail are strikingly similar to the police log. Enough so to suggest that there was collusion between the authors. With this in mind, if coppers are going to lie about being at the scene, they would probably think nothing of fabricating what Mitchell (allegedly) said.
It's looking more and more like a fit up every day. The police have lost all credibility, and if this was a court case it would have been binned by now.
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| Don't know what the fuss is about really.
The majority of coppers I've encountered over the years [iare[/i plebs.
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| Quote ZACH="ZACH"So 120,000 to 130,000 coppers and to quote you "most are bent".
Oh the joys of the well educated ones with well reasoned arguments. Words sadly fail me.
What we have here is an MP who has sworn at police officers by his own admittance. That to me is contempt. They were simply carrying out orders.
We then have a situation were a third party police officer has seen fit for reasons only known to him to make political gain from it.
I am sure we will find out why sometime next year. Either with an IPCC statement or a court appearance.
I am curious in all this to know why [uWest Midlands police[/u federation became so involved in this matter. It had absolutely nothing to do with them. They don't directly represent Met officers yet got themselves tangled up in this sorry saga.'"
The bentest of the bent.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB":lol:
The bentest of the bent.'"
As long as Mitchell wasn't playing cards with his mates beforehand he'll be ok.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"As long as Mitchell wasn't playing cards with his mates beforehand he'll be ok.'"
Yes, playing card residue can be very explosive.
At least they always got their man (e)
Even though it was usually the wrong one(s).
[urlhttp://www.innocent.org.uk/misc/wmidlands.html[/url
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| Quote The Video Ref="The Video Ref"So, the e mail, which we now know came from an off-duty copper posing as a member of the public, was sent BEFORE the police log was leaked. We now know that this person was not present at the time of the incident and that their e mail was a complete and utter falsehood.
The contents of this e mail are strikingly similar to the police log. Enough so to suggest that there was collusion between the authors. With this in mind, if coppers are going to lie about being at the scene, they would probably think nothing of fabricating what Mitchell (allegedly) said.
It's looking more and more like a fit up every day. The police have lost all credibility, and if this was a court case it would have been binned by now.'"
Why do you think it even comes close to suggest collusion between the authors? Would it not be much more likely that the police officer who has been arrested had seen the police log rather than been involved in writing it?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Why do you think it even comes close to suggest collusion between the authors? Would it not be much more likely that the police officer who has been arrested had seen the police log rather than been involved in writing it?'"
Of course it's far more likely. But that wouldn't fit the agenda of the poster in question.
The lack of critical thinking ability displayed by a few on this thread is both laughable and depressing.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"But that wouldn't fit the agenda of the poster in question.
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2 arrests made, dodgy CCTV and a team of 30 investigating what happened and somehow the people wanting truth and justice are the ones with 'an agenda' - baffling.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Of course it's far more likely. But that wouldn't fit the agenda of the poster in question.
The lack of critical thinking ability displayed by a few on this thread is both laughable and depressing.'"
To be fair, its probably not much worse than is normal on Rlfans when the police are subject to criticism.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"2 arrests made, dodgy CCTV and a team of 30 investigating what happened and somehow the people wanting truth and justice are the ones with 'an agenda' - baffling.'"
The second arrest has nothing to do with the original incident:
Quote Ajw71The arrest related to events that allegedly occurred last Friday.
He was arrested on suspicion of deliberately helping or encouraging an offence, though police would give no more details about the suspected offence.'"
So no conspiracy there. In fact no evidence whatsoever of any conspiracy anywhere. And the people harking on about police conspiracies aren't after 'truth and justice'. They're just desperate to score political points.
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