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| Quote Dally="Dally"Will be interesting to see whether this 180,000+ who have just paid £25 to vote are Corbyn fans or not. If they are, then you can see why the press / establishment deride him continuously - Labour now has 571,000 members and if the majority are supporting him that suggests people want serious change. It is not an insubstantial number to have made the effort to join and pay £3 / £25. For every one that has signed up there are probably 10 or more that have the same view but can't be bothered.'"
Or of that 180,000 , 150,000 are Tories who've paid to keep him at the helm of the rapidly sinking good ship Labour ?
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| Still trying to work out why others work very hard to make others rich so they can enjoy the benefits at the expense of those who actually create the wealth and then keep voting for a party who believe in a discredited unfair system that allows them to be exploited in such a way.
Then again people do have the right to be stupid.
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| Corbyn would get rid of trident
He gets my vote
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| Quote Lebron James="Lebron James"Corbyn would get rid of trident
He gets my vote
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He would , but he won't
I agree with loads of ' green ' issues and the parties policy's , never happen though
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36852222
Seems the only option if Corbyn wins?'"
It is, as they should've been from his first victory 9/10 months ago.
I speak as someone who didn't vote for Corbyn, but this has been politics at its absolute worst from many Labour MP's.
Whoever wins now the Party has to rally behind. If Smith wins I hope he's not as right wing as he used to be on many issues and that his left wing talk isn't just platitudes.
If Corbyn wins again the PLP has NO option but to get fully behind him.
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Quote Him="Him"It is, as they should've been from his first victory 9/10 months ago.
I speak as someone who didn't vote for Corbyn, but this has been politics at its absolute worst from many Labour MP's.
Whoever wins now the Party has to rally behind. If Smith wins I hope he's not as right wing as he used to be on many issues and that his left wing talk isn't just platitudes.
If Corbyn wins again the PLP has NO option but to get fully behind him.'"
Summed up well.
As for Owen Smith, he used work for Pfizer. That's enough for me.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... wen-smith/
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I speak as someone who didn't vote for Corbyn, but this has been politics at its absolute worst from many Labour MP's.
Whoever wins now the Party has to rally behind. If Smith wins I hope he's not as right wing as he used to be on many issues and that his left wing talk isn't just platitudes.
If Corbyn wins again the PLP has NO option but to get fully behind him.'"
Summed up well.
As for Owen Smith, he used work for Pfizer. That's enough for me.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... wen-smith/
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36852222
Seems the only option if Corbyn wins?'"
Just like he always did
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www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... y-fear-him
Another. It's hard to believe this article was written almost a year ago during the first leadership campaign. Everything, [ieverything[/i that Owen Jones predicted in his article has either come to fruition or we are witnessing daily now.
Jones is either clairvoyant or a very clever political analyst. It is all so frighteningly contrived. We, the public, are pawns played like the proverbial fiddle. Scary stuff.
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Another. It's hard to believe this article was written almost a year ago during the first leadership campaign. Everything, [ieverything[/i that Owen Jones predicted in his article has either come to fruition or we are witnessing daily now.
Jones is either clairvoyant or a very clever political analyst. It is all so frighteningly contrived. We, the public, are pawns played like the proverbial fiddle. Scary stuff.
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| By "refreshing" I assume you mean putting across views that chime with your own? They are both utter tripe as far as I can tell. The establishment might well fear a move towards socialism, but that has not and will not ever happen under Corbyn.
Perhaps the oddest thing for me with respect to so much of the commentary in favour of Corbyn is the sheer hypocrisy of it.
Firstly Corbynistas (I feel able to use that ridiculous term because Corbyn acolytes love to do the same) constantly bemoan him being demonised by the press whilst happily demonising Labour MPs who don't rate him (Blairites, Bliarites, Tory Lites, Neo-Libs, Red Tories etc etc).
The second issue is the irony of ignoring Corbyn's history of defying the party whip yet complaining about disloyalty of others. Somehow when Jeremy defied the party it was a moral stance, and yet when MPs defy him its disloyal? Just staggering hypocrisy.
The worst thing is that when some Labour MPs have reported threats from supposed Labour supporters for their lack of loyalty to the great man (who unlike Corbyn's fans actually have to work with him), its downplayed as just part of the hurly burly of politics, aided by Corbyn's pathetically lukewarm response. Corbyn himself has made (very thinly) veiled threats about deselection for MPs who who show disloyalty to him.
If it wasn't a major threat to democracy this whole thing would be laughable. Sadly the Judean People's Front vs People's Front of Judea is being played out real time by the supposed opposition.
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| Quote vbfg="vbfg"I'm not going to help fund its slow death and accelerating irrelevance either.'"
I'm not even kicking around for the vote.
Not my party any more. I quit on Saturday.
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