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Quote: Backwoodsman "I suggest the problem is illegal immigrants , doesn’t really matter in which part of the country they are placed. A decent hotel in York is full of them, I can fully understand the rush to get out of France, when the reward is a place in one of the countries nicest cities. As opposed to sleeping in tents in Calais. Anyway congratulations ,you have managed a posting without the mention of Boris Johnson'"

Surely that would be dePffell Johnson

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Not to mention the circa 3 million HK residents who have been told they can come ?

It's the shipping people off 4000 miles, to a country not renowned for it human rights that is wrong.
If this was China or Russia, we would be rightly pointing the finger and saying how it was wrong but, Ms Patel seems capable of almost anything and it's up to the decent folk in her party to keep her (and Boris) in line, something which, to date, they have shown little appetite for.

Incidentally, which country are your friends coming from ?'"

Costa Rica and Indonesia. The lad who has been granted residency status is from Costa Rica is a highly skilled craftsman. To enhance his application he worked withot pay (genuine) for one company . He now has a good job with that company ,he has other companies chasing his skills.
The other applicant is an oil rig engineer , he married a Christian girl from one of the islands. At the moment they won’t even let her into the country, sadly his father is at the end of life with MS. So he will have to come back without her, He has been married to her for approximately 5 years. I was surprised just how much the application process cost.

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Quote: chissitt "Surely that would be dePffell Johnson'"


No it wouldn’t because I never use Johnson.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "No it wouldn’t because I never use Johnson.'"

Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I find it amazing when it is the Conservatives it is always all the others are doing the same or if they fail to legislate it was the same for many years regardless who was in charge.
I ask has Johnson produced the 100 contracts that he failed to declare despite being instructed to do so.'"

Blumming heck that how easy was that. eusa_liar.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: chissitt "Blumming heck that how easy was that.
Yes but I have moved on to just de Pfeffel because that better describes what he spouts.

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No matter what we do they will keep on coming, this for them is the land of milk and honey, free money, Patel is at least trying to deter them, but the do gooders, rights lawyers, and scrounging charities, will keep them coming, keep them here, to line their own pockets, they have crossed many safe countries, so broken international law, they are by definition criminals, you try it see what happens to you, just how many are we prepared to take, don’t forget this is only the advance party, once settled it will be the tern of the wives, some will have more than one, the children , mothers farthers,brothers,sisters, millions, no joke, we were full decades ago.

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Quote: boomer "No matter what we do they will keep on coming, this for them is the land of milk and honey, free money, Patel is at least trying to deter them, but the do gooders, rights lawyers, and scrounging charities, will keep them coming, keep them here, to line their own pockets, they have crossed many safe countries, so broken international law, they are by definition criminals, you try it see what happens to you, just how many are we prepared to take, don’t forget this is only the advance party, once settled it will be the tern of the wives, some will have more than one, the children , mothers farthers,brothers,sisters, millions, no joke, we were full decades ago.'"

LOL.

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Quote: boomer "No matter what we do they will keep on coming, this for them is the land of milk and honey, free money, Patel is at least trying to deter them, but the do gooders, rights lawyers, and scrounging charities, will keep them coming, keep them here, to line their own pockets, they have crossed many safe countries, so broken international law, they are by definition criminals, you try it see what happens to you, just how many are we prepared to take, don’t forget this is only the advance party, once settled it will be the tern of the wives, some will have more than one, the children , mothers farthers,brothers,sisters, millions, no joke, we were full decades ago.'"


indeed LOL.
You've been lapping up the twaddle written in the daily fail and spouted by the likes of waxy lemon. So many holes in that argument its like a string vest so I'm not even going to try to unpick it. But here's a little food for thought. a massive part of the reason why these people come here is because of people like you.
The Brits went out there and made the empire, they forced people to speak English and so now they do, they forced their ways and customs on them so now the people feel like they understand the country. They come here because they speak our language and know our ways and customs. They dont speak German, French, Italian or Greek. But those countries by the way have all taken more asylum seekers than we have. HTH.

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Quote: jools "indeed LOL.
You've been lapping up the twaddle written in the daily fail and spouted by the likes of waxy lemon. So many holes in that argument its like a string vest so I'm not even going to try to unpick it. But here's a little food for thought. a massive part of the reason why these people come here is because of people like you.
The Brits went out there and made the empire, they forced people to speak English and so now they do, they forced their ways and customs on them so now the people feel like they understand the country. They come here because they speak our language and know our ways and customs. They dont speak German, French, Italian or Greek. But those countries by the way have all taken more asylum seekers than we have. HTH.'"


I think your theory on why they wish to come to U.K. is slightly flawed - certainly based on figures to Sept 2021.
More likely to have been part of the Ottoman Empire or under Italian rule for considerably longer than any U.K. rule.

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Quote: TURFEDOUT "I think your theory on why they wish to come to U.K. is slightly flawed - certainly based on figures to Sept 2021.
More likely to have been part of the Ottoman Empire or under Italian rule for considerably longer than any U.K. rule.'"


The British empire existed to "civilize" the rest of the world.
It lingered after the ottoman empire ceased and so its influence will remain after. Which other language do they most likely speak Turkish, Italian or English? Why do you think this is the case? If you had the choice where would you rather live, in a place where you spoke nothing of the language and knew nothing of the country, or where you could get by and had some idea of the history of the place?

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Quote: jools "The British empire existed to "civilize" the rest of the world.
It lingered after the ottoman empire ceased and so its influence will remain after. Which other language do they most likely speak Turkish, Italian or English? Why do you think this is the case? If you had the choice where would you rather live, in a place where you spoke nothing of the language and knew nothing of the country, or where you could get by and had some idea of the history of the place?'"

Albania - 4th most applications for asylum.
To my knowledge never part of British Empire - Ottoman to early 1900s - then Italy.
Sorry but can’t agree the sole reason asylum seekers head to U.K. is based on language.
English is (I’m guessing) second language in most European countries or at very least widely spoken, so don’t see why “language” would be a great influence on which country the asylum seeker heads for.
Furthermore I just can’t fathom why somebody fleeing persecution would risk jumping on a lorry/crossing the channel in a dinghy, generally putting their live at risk,because they may or may not speak English - English is widely spoken in the countries they have come through.

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Asylum seekers come here because they know they can hold offshore bank accounts and fiddle their taxes.
Fair do’s icon_biggrin.gif

And of course the small matter that UK has been at the forefront of raizing and mass civilian murder in their own countries for the last 20 years.

Then of course UK borders are a turnstile with the continued flood in of rich Indians, rich Afghans, rich Hong Kongers, rich Russian oligarchs, rich Saudis,and rich and corrupt anyone else icon_lol.gif
Not forgetting the Odessa Files lol
What’s not to like icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: TURFEDOUT "Albania - 4th most applications for asylum.
To my knowledge never part of British Empire - Ottoman to early 1900s - then Italy.
Sorry but can’t agree the sole reason asylum seekers head to U.K. is based on language.
English is (I’m guessing) second language in most European countries or at very least widely spoken, so don’t see why “language” would be a great influence on which country the asylum seeker heads for.
Furthermore I just can’t fathom why somebody fleeing persecution would risk jumping on a lorry/crossing the channel in a dinghy, generally putting their live at risk,because they may or may not speak English - English is widely spoken in the countries they have come through.'"


Well there ya go- English is the second language in most European countries you say……. Wonder why……

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I thought Albania was one of the countries the Home Office wanted to set up a Rwandan type of arrangement before Rwanda.

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It seems that The Government were warned about the dangers of the Rwandan Government prior to setting up the "assylum scheme", in that they either "kill or torture their political opponents".
Maybe we should send some of our government ministers over there first, to make sure it's a safe option.

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