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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
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| Quote: samwire "i'd rather not use basic correct punctuation than just spout lies to try and back up my own petty prejudices.'"
Congratulations.
That's probably one of the stupidest posts ever seen on these boards.
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| Quote: samwire "oh god, so you're still not done. here, i'll help. the bit in bold below, go find it, then get back to me. that's you're starting point.
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| Quote: Mintball "Congratulations.
That's probably one of the stupidest posts ever seen on these boards.
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not quite as stupid as thinking 2.5m is a smaller number than 2.0m.
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Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
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| Quote: samwire "i'd rather not use basic correct punctuation than just spout lies to try and back up my own petty prejudices.'"
Everyone reading this will have picked up on the fact that one needs to see beyond headline numbers ... but you either can't or, more likely, won't. |
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| Quote: Dally "The Tories could, for the wrong reasons (IMO), maybe get this right. If, as I have previously proposed, they can split the French-German axis that dominates Europe and isolate France in policy terms we could all come out of this well. As I have said before, a Northern European powerhouse with France being isolated, possibly as the champion of the impoverished South would be a good outcome.'"
To decide if we will come out of it well you'd have to know what Cameron wants specifically and if he gets it judge if that would make the people of this country better off.
Given by amending rules that can be amended by the UK government alone such as reducing redundancy notice period down from 90 to 45 days you can see what is coming of they get the ability to ditch European employment laws.
These include things like not discriminating against part time workers or women, ensuring workers are entitled to paid holiday's and offer protection when companies are taken over and other stuff I think most people take for granted not realising where the legislation originates from and what they therefore risk to lose.
I do not think that equates to us coming out of this well. |
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The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: DaveO "To decide if we will come out of it well you'd have to know what Cameron wants specifically and if he gets it judge if that would make the people of this country better off.
Given by amending rules that can be amended by the UK government alone such as reducing redundancy notice period down from 90 to 45 days you can see what is coming of they get the ability to ditch European employment laws.
These include things like not discriminating against part time workers or women, ensuring workers are entitled to paid holiday's and offer protection when companies are taken over and other stuff I think most people take for granted not realising where the legislation originates from and what they therefore risk to lose.
I do not think that equates to us coming out of this well.'"
Strangely, the only scenario he specifically mentioned was of hospital doctors forced to work to the EU maximum hours directive. I don't know of one working doctor or surgeon who would willingly go back to working 100+ hours per week, nor do I imagine any patient would be happy going under the knife of someone who enjoyed little sleep over the previous week.
As for repatriation of other employment protections, what makes him think that the other 26 countries would willingly give the UK a derogation in order that we can better compete against them? |
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| Quote: DaveO "Well its now becoming slightly clearer as the "Fresh Start Group" have four main demands for what they want
Regarding the monthly Plenary sessions, I noticed an item in Private Eye.
Apparently MEPs are fed up with traipsing back and forth from Brussel to Strasbourg 12 times a year for these sessions (at £12.5m a pop) and voted to cut them down to 11 as a beninning of a tapering-down of the Strasbourg visits, eventually to have the seat of Parliament in Brussels only.
But the French, losing business etc in Strasbourg, took it to court and won, on the basis that the treaty says 12 per year ... but 88% of MEPs have already voted to phase them out, starting the phasing in mid-2013.
So Cameron will be pushing at an open door on that one and is a bit late coming in on the proposal.
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"You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" [i:2886spie]Elbert Hubbard[/i:2886spie]
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." [i:2886spie]Oscar Wilde[/i:2886spie]
[url=http://thevoluptuousmanifesto.blogspot.co.uk:2886spie][color=#4000FF:2886spie]The Voluptuous Manifesto[/color:2886spie][/url:2886spie] – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1977.jpg |
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| Quote: cod'ead "Strangely, the only scenario he specifically mentioned was of hospital doctors forced to work to the EU maximum hours directive. I don't know of one working doctor or surgeon who would willingly go back to working 100+ hours per week, nor do I imagine any patient would be happy going under the knife of someone who enjoyed little sleep over the previous week.
As for repatriation of other employment protections, what makes him think that the other 26 countries would willingly give the UK a derogation in order that we can better compete against them?'"
Spot on, on both points. |
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The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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rlShapps reckons we could leaverl
Talk about singing off the same hymn sheet, these buggers aren't even in the same church
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| Quote: cod'ead "rl
Talk about singing off the same hymn sheet, these buggers aren't even in the same church'"
It shows that the Conservatives are in a total mess, which was pretty much what people predicted as the coalition was formed. Shapps is a loathsome individual with no real grasp of reality, I had the misfortune of meeting him when he was Housing Minister. |
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The older I get, the better I was
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I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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The picture of Shapps in the linked-to article is fairly typicals[/ie and quite often seems like he's enjoying the experience |
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Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream: |
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