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| Quote: Mintball "Oh indeed, dearie. I consider voting to be the most simple and basic level of democracy. Not that we were ever given the chance to vote on the matter of the Games.
You could, of course, reveal here what elections were held in London (let's stick with the capital for the sake of the argument) and what votes we, the electorate therefore had a chance to vote in, when our opinion was sought.
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Wow you really need to think before you post.
The OG was funded in the main out of lottery and taxes - lottery funding could be spent in our area instead of more superb facilities and regeneration for the wealthiest city in the country.
The decision to apply and fund the games was taken by democratically elected bodies, the fact you disagree doesn't mean you weren't consulted.
If we run a good games it must have a positive impact on the outside view of the country - it can only show the UK in a good light which will have positive commercial benefits later down the line. An example - Dave Brailsford the UK cycling bossman - he skills are already in big demand as the elite performance director in UK sport. Given what has happened in the OG do you think his reputation and demand for his services will have diminished? The benefit to the community - for one they don't have to look at the eyesore that was the olympic pary before its regeneration.
For every small business that is suffering - I think they will be few and far between - there will be many more small businesses who are benefitting from the increased footfall at the olympic venues. It isn't a massive leap of faith to suggest that many of the independant retailers arounf Eton have seen a boost to their turnover?
The fact you may not want to use any of the facilities doesn't mean you will not get any benefit - these facilities enhance the city and as such will be a revenue stream for many years to come. It is unrealistic to say these revenues and the spin off from them will not benefit the ordinary citizens of London.
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| Quote: Mintball "I think I posted something about the general impact on the centre of town last week. But a downfall in trade at, say, John Lewis, will not have the same impact as the downfall in trade on a small business.'"
Why, over the last couple of months, have you metamorphosed into a champion of "small businesses." Can we expect the next phase of your slow transition into adulthood to be to pupate as a champion of multi-national business' unifying influence in an otherwise disharmonious world; before finally blooming into a wonderous champion of investment banking? |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Wow you really need to think before you post...'"
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Cronus is right. I'm sitting less than 5 miles from the Olympic Park at the gateway to that part of East London and you wouldn't know there was an event in. Zero disruption.
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| Quote: Mintball "I've mentioned before the case of the husband and wife catering team at the Excel – they have two vans and have been there since it opened. They have had to remove the vans and put them somewhere else, at their own cost, for the duration.'"
I doubt it will have come as a shock to them, this will have been written in their lease agreement as Excel has been a known venue for at least 5 years, were they given a chance to bid for a catering franchise there during the games? It may have been the cost of the lease during the games was too high, that is the problems a small operator faces. I know someone who runs a similar operation at Wembley, they were all given the chance to have their existing pitch before the rest went out to tender.
Why should anyone else pay to move and store their equipment?
Quote: Mintball "I have also mentioned the local furniture maker who was told that he could only open his workshops after 11pm each night – in an area where there are no buses etc running at those times, so most of his workforce wouldn't be able to get there. Locog didn't want "unnecessary traffic".'"
Yet you fail to answer the question of who told them they can't open. LOCOG don't have the authority and neither do the local council. It maybe the case that they want deliveries late but that has affected a number of businesses and they have adjusted to cope. |
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I used to think he was a prick, now I know he is...
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| Quote: Mintball "Irony alert! ![]()
Irony!! you should read the stuff you have posted on this thread!!
To answer your points - as citizens we get to vote a government in and then we hope they deal with legislation in the correct manner. The Olympics was not put to the electorate like virtually every other government decision - so you input into the OG decision was no different to how much foreign aide we give away or the level of benefits the government decides to dole out - so don't make a fool out of yourself just because you don't agree.
I gave Brailsford as an example - not the only example - are your struggling with comprehension?
Good job they discovered the radio-active otherwise it would still be there - is that really what you wanted?
Are you seriously suggesting we should not have held the games because a burger van trader or a market stall trader has suffered two weeks of disruption!! - you are not serious? you are!!! I bet you never canvassed any of the local businesses near the park to see how they have benefitted - no would not suit your argument!!
If these games inspires some kids to get off their backsides and engage in physical activity rather than playstation activity it will be well worth every penny that has been spent.
As for libraries I struggle to understand your vex, books are cheap to buy especially second hand or download - perhaps we need virtual libraries - oh I forgot you can already download books for your local authority.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "
If these games inspires some kids to get off their backsides and engage in physical activity rather than playstation activity it will be well worth every penny that has been spent.
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More likely they'll be inspired to spend even more time on their backsides trying to achieve greatness via "London 2012" or whatever the playstation game is called. |
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| Quote: Dally "More likely they'll be inspired to spend even more time on their backsides trying to achieve greatness via "London 2012" or whatever the playstation game is called.'"
While drinking a coke and eating a McDonalds take away? |
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| Quote: Him "While drinking a coke and eating a McDonalds take away?'"
Yes, whilst wearing Adidas track suit bottoms and trainers. |
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| Quote: Dally "Yes, whilst wearing Adidas track suit bottoms and trainers.'"
Or Nike?
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