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| Quote: EASTCOASTFC2016 "Coming from you that's laughable. I hope the CIA or Zionists catch up with you, you're of little use to wider society. Better get that tinfoil hat on.'"
Do you feel better now?
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| Looks like Martin Standee Eastcoast is up to his old tricks on here & the FC board, trying to antagonise other users & contributing nothing.
Obviously the two previous bans he's had didn't mean anything. A repeat offender.
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| No problems. I've been meaning to turf a few people for a bit. And this is an interesting topic to discuss.
And before I cop a ton of criticism for not allowing folk to vent their spleen - there are only two such threads. And this isn't one of them.
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| Is there criminality in sports betting? Given that there is criminality in every aspect of life that involves money - most certainly yes.
Is sport routinely and systemically rigged? Unlikely.
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| Quote: bren2k "Is there criminality in sports betting? Given that there is criminality in every aspect of life that involves money - most certainly yes.
Is sport routinely and systemically rigged? Unlikely.'"
It's obviously significantly harder to rig a sport like football or rugby because of the team nature of the game. You'd have to bribe most of the team. Even if you could get to the referee it's still difficult to definitely rig a game. Plus of course you've got footballers (and some Union players) who are paid so much it's not worth the risk of taking a bribe.
Where I think it's more likely is in sports like tennis, cricket, athletics and maybe golf. Very popular, worldwide sports that attract large amounts of betting money and you've got much more scope for affecting a result (or a certain situation as with spot betting). I get the feeling we've only just scratched the surface in discovering corruption with betting or drug taking in these sports.
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| Quote: Mugwump "No problems. I've been meaning to turf a few people for a bit. And this is an interesting topic to discuss.
And before I cop a ton of criticism for not allowing folk to vent their spleen - there are only two such threads. And this isn't one of them.'"
you're an imbecilic dictator, singlehandedly killed The Sin Bin, there's little wonder it's only you that posts regularly.
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| Quote: Him "It's obviously significantly harder to rig a sport like football or rugby because of the team nature of the game. You'd have to bribe most of the team. Even if you could get to the referee it's still difficult to definitely rig a game. Plus of course you've got footballers (and some Union players) who are paid so much it's not worth the risk of taking a bribe.
Where I think it's more likely is in sports like tennis, cricket, athletics and maybe golf. Very popular, worldwide sports that attract large amounts of betting money and you've got much more scope for affecting a result (or a certain situation as with spot betting). I get the feeling we've only just scratched the surface in discovering corruption with betting or drug taking in these sports.'"
To rig an entire competition you wouldn't use players. It's simply not feasible.
However, it's ENTIRELY feasible to find a dozen officials who will do as they are told and keep their mouths shut.
Like I said - it's BAD BUSINESS not to rig a competition if you can. The potential profits are mind-boggling.
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| Quote: Mugwump "To rig an entire competition you wouldn't use players. It's simply not feasible.
However, it's ENTIRELY feasible to find a dozen officials who will do as they are told and keep their mouths shut.
Like I said - it's BAD BUSINESS not to rig a competition if you can. The potential profits are mind-boggling.'"
It's [itechnically[/i feasible, but highly unlikely; in much the same way that a decade spanning, worldwide, multi-national and multi-agency conspiracy to affect all world events is technically feasible, but highly unlikely. People talk - and the more of them involved in any kind of scam, the less likely it remains a secret. Not to mention the algorithms, analysis and technical wizardry employed by large bookmakers, which can spot unusual patterns or behaviour well before any human has to.
There will be incidents of malfeasance - but not on the scale you're alluding to and certainly not in a way that rigs the outcome of a league or competition.
That said - I did see Michael Carter give the new ref a Twix and a bottle of Lucozade before we played Warrington at the weekend...
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| Quote: bren2k "It's [itechnically[/i feasible, but highly unlikely; in much the same way that a decade spanning, worldwide, multi-national and multi-agency conspiracy to affect all world events is technically feasible, but highly unlikely. '"
This is based on WHAT?
Data? Evidence? Or are you just guessing?
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| Sports fixing will be the focus of Marwan's press conference tomorrow so I'm lead to believe. Referee's brown envelopes, heads need to roll if the evidence is proven. Apparently he has all the evidence. It'll blow the sport to its knees.
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| Quote: Mugwump "This is based on WHAT?
Data? Evidence? Or are you just guessing?'"
Exactly the same basis upon which you put forward the hypothesis; you think it's ENTIRELY feasible, but you have no evidence to say it's actually happening. I posit that it's [itechnically[/i feasible but highly unlikely, without any evidence to say it's not happening.
Does that follow the rules that you've made up in your head, or should I provide some kind of peer reviewed, youtube evidenced, copy/pasted material to back up my opinion?
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| Quite an indepth knowledge of all that goes on on this board considering you only joined six weeks ago?
Mods... Just out of curiosity, if you are handed a ban are you allowed to just re register under a different username?
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| Not sure about rigging and the like, but i swear referees on Sky tv games are told to make things.....'interesting'
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