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“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21 A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg



Garbutt - copy & pasting Sun & Mail headlines slagging off Labour, only to be embarrassed with multiple evidence of your hypocrisy; then claiming they are all the same just makes you look even dafter.

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Quote: IR80 "So Labour and the Conservatives are double dealimg, self serving.
I think the problem with almost all politicians and people in power is that, eventually they will become self serving.

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Quote: bren2k "Indeed. Here's your man Boris Johnson on Gordon Brown's succession
Very true, Boris Johnson is a complete hypocrite unless he calls a general election very soon.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Very true, Boris Johnson is a complete hypocrite unless he calls a general election very soon.'"

By the same token so are labour politicians using the change in leadership to call for one.

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Quote: wotsupcas "I think the problem with almost all politicians and people in power is that, eventually they will become self serving'"

I know that has become the accepted mantra but I don't think that is true. There are numerous dedicated MPs working away for their constituents who do not get the limelight because that is just what they are doing. It is their full time job, taking the away from their families for large amounts of time, without highly paid occasional other jobs. Jo Cox was a great example, I'm sure only the likes of Garbutt would class her as self-serving.

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Quote: IR80 "envious of Boris' family, upbringing, education, ability and opportunity.'"


By all accounts, his father, Stanley, is a cheating scoundrel, guilty of multiple extra-marital affairs. Like father, like son, aye? The apple never falls far from the tree. Don't be suckered in by Stanley's media persona which was fabricated in I'm a Celebrity... and continues to be fabricated as they pair him up with some young sort from Made in Chelsea, like they're best buddies. It's all an act to normalise him. Just like Boris is an act to make him appear as your mate, when in reality, he'd have you in the workhouse 12 hours a day until you're 80. But you keep licking the Johnson's boots. There's a good serf.

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Quote: King Street Cat "By all accounts, his father, Stanley, is a cheating scoundrel, guilty of multiple extra-marital affairs. Like father, like son, aye? The apple never falls far from the tree. Don't be suckered in by Stanley's media persona which was fabricated in I'm a Celebrity... and continues to be fabricated as they pair him up with some young sort from Made in Chelsea, like they're best buddies. It's all an act to normalise him. Just like Boris is an act to make him appear as your mate, when in reality, he'd have you in the workhouse 12 hours a day until you're 80. But you keep licking the Johnson's boots. There's a good serf.'"

Firstly, I genuinely hope you get over the bitterness you hold.
Secondly, what does anyones PRIVATE life count

You hate commerce, professionalism and achievement, obvious envy.

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Quote: IR80 "Firstly, I genuinely hope you get over the bitterness you hold.
Secondly, what does anyones PRIVATE life count

You hate commerce, professionalism and achievement, obvious envy.'"


ABdPB has said ‘**** business’, was sacked from his first job as a journalist for making up a quote (that led his own godfather complaining about him), and is most famous for being a shambling, dishevelled, dishonest former member of the University of Oxford’s spoilt gormless vandal club.

Then there is his use, this century, of terms like ‘watermelon smiles’ and ‘flag waving piccaninnies’ to describe Africans.

Do you regard him more or less highly than KSC? I don’t know KSC, but I imagine he’d make a better prime minister. See also, Zippy from Rainbow, my 5-year old grandniece (who is at least cute), and the singer with the moustache from the Go Compare adverts.

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Quote: Mild Rover "See also, Zippy from Rainbow, my 5-year old grandniece (who is at least cute), and the singer with the moustache from the Go Compare adverts.'"


It's a little know fact that Zippy was a strong supporter of the Democratic Socialist movement, and had some interesting ideas about the inevitable failure of the capitalist system; so powerful was his conviction, that on the set of Rainbow, many people referred to him as 'Comrade Zippy.'

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Quote: bren2k "It's a little know fact that Zippy was a strong supporter of the Democratic Socialist movement, and had some interesting ideas about the inevitable failure of the capitalist system; so powerful was his conviction, that on the set of Rainbow, many people referred to him as 'Comrade Zippy.''"


Part of the infamous red puppet brigade, i’ve heard.

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How much of Boris' spending pledges should we believe, they guy is doing just as he did during the Brexit campaign and telling the voting public what they want to hear, without any sense of reality or likelihood that it will happen.
I quite like his plan for the Leeds - Manchester rail link but, if our country wasn't so London centric, this should/would have happened before any thought's of HS2.
The same "idiots" that believed him firs time round will probably fall for it again.
The people of Sunderland saying that they intend to vote for him is scary.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "How much of Boris' spending pledges should we believe'"


It would help if the media held his wild claims properly to account.

For example, the breathless reporting of his "20,000 new police officers in 3 years" claim - I have seen very little mention of the fact that that through retirement and other natural wastage, we'll lose around 20k officers in the next 3 years; so a nett zero effect.

And that's quite aside from the fact that having closed so many police stations, there'd be nowhere for them to work even if we did get new ones.

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Quote: bren2k "It would help if the media held his wild claims properly to account.

For example, the breathless reporting of his "20,000 new police officers in 3 years" claim - I have seen very little mention of the fact that that through retirement and other natural wastage, we'll lose around 20k officers in the next 3 years; so a nett zero effect.

And that's quite aside from the fact that having closed so many police stations, there'd be nowhere for them to work even if we did get new ones.'"


Yes, it turned our to be an extremely ambiguous "policy".
I think that he said "new" rather than "additional" which keeps numbers pretty much the same as they are now.

Everything is largely irrelevant until Brexit is either done or dead.

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another tory ,another grub.85% of the population have been held back by these upper class tory twits for years,link them with the royals,another load of upper class scroungers.

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