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Quote: WIZEB "...and didn't particularly have to suck cock to get to where he is today.

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Not [iparticularly[/i?

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Quote: JerryChicken "Its an attitude that is very prevalent among the self employed or business owners who have created their own business from scratch - worst still are those who inherited a going concern and continue to accept the platitudes for it.'"


Low in empathy/guilt, with weak conscience, good liars, fraudsters, impervious to rules, punishments, materialistic?

Some characteristics shared by the people in question in your post would you say?

If so they are showing psychopathic tendencies. You may have heard of a recent study done that likened investment bankers to psychopaths but I think the net is wider than just that ilk.

For years now I have always got very annoyed when I see some CEO or Chairmen saying things like "The business made people redundant." or really dishing out any negative news hiding behind the company. The "business" didn't do any such thing. A person or persons decided to do it and a person or persons decided who was to lose their jobs. It is the same when politicians talk about a flexible labour force being a good thing. The "labour force" is people and "flexibility" means very little job security and often low wages to boot. To hide behind such terms as "the business" or "the labour force" is at the very least narcissistic (though of course narcissism is a symptom of psychopathy).

I am sure there are good business owners out there who have many a sleepless night if they are facing having to lay people off but there are far too many people out there today who show an astonishing lack of empathy with other peoples situations.

I used to think it was the ignorance of those who had never seen at first hand any tough situations in life but that doesn't cut it. Some have and others are intelligent enough to see what the reality is for a lot of people yet they still show an amazing lack of empathy. So the only conclusion is narcissism is a lot more common than people may think!

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Quote: WIZEB "
I guess I shouldn't be so rounded.
Tried dieting you fat bastad?

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Quote: Rock God X "Not [iparticularly[/i?'"


If you're gonna suck cock you really do need to be particular about whose cock you suck

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Quote: Rock God X "Not [iparticularly[/i?'"


None that he's informed me of anyway.

Might of had to bum a couple of his gaffers along the way, mind.

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Quote: cod'ead "Tried dieting you fat bastad?'"


No bread for six weeks.
No takeaway for six wks.
4 miles down the railway lines daily.

Got a wedding Saturday.
New suit, new white shirt (just to show the tan off) and new electric blue silk tie.

They will be flocking. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: WIZEB "None that he's informed me of anyway.

Might of had to bum a couple of his gaffers along the way, mind.'"


How does one 'not particularly' suck a cock? Surely one is either sucking a cock, or one is not.

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Can we please kept the bad language down please.

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Bad language? Think that was a cock up on my part. You're cock on, though. Won't happen again, cock.

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Like others here, I've certainly had a fair share of luck, good and bad.

The only thing I've ever received was unemployment, on occasions when I have been out of work. Although as mentioned earlier, that excludes education and health care.

My own experiences of being out of work were certainly not happy or somehow rolling in it, but the biggest impact, in my experience, is on your confidence and, indeed, your sense of dignity.

I'm fortunate enough, at present (I take nothing for granted) to have regular work that pays well - allowing me, for instance not only the best lifestyle I've had, but also to save. I have long-terms aims, and I invest my own, unpaid time in those, so I'd suggest that that reflects a preparedness to out in the time to 'get on'.

But one of the major lessons of my own experiences was that you can't just do it on your own - we none of us exist in splendiferous isolation, where work, for instance, is simply the matter of getting up and the morning and deciding that we will work today. The idea of everyone running their own business would be ridiculous, so therefore we understand that, for the majority, they do the jobs required by those people who do. And if, as over the last few years, the economy is in recession, then it is patent idiocy to pretend that everyone can simply go out and get that job.

But with that comes something elseThe Spirit Level[/i?

And can we, for the sake of this discussion at least, get past tribal politics and consider the issues?

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Quote: Rock God X "How does one 'not particularly' suck a cock? Surely one is either sucking a cock, or one is not.'"


I don't know.
If you have some experience on the subject, I'm all ears. ([sizenot mouth
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rlThoughts of a 90-year-old WWII veteran on the current state of affairs.rl

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Quote: Mintball "rlThoughts of a 90-year-old WWII veteran on the current state of affairs.rl'"


Excellent piece of writing, his was the generation who gave us the NHS, a state pension, social care and social housing fit to live in, they cleared slums and made sure that the governments that followed the war didn't forget why they had been elected - they also gave us NATO, the United Nations and the beginnings of the EU to make sure that we didn't have to do what they had to do.

No wonder he sits there now and shakes his head as he sees all of us stand by and let politicians unravel all of their predecessors good work.

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It's extremely moving as well.

And it almost makes you think that, with most of his generation now gone, that's one of things that makes the work of this government easier in its deconstruction of the social contract.

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Quote: Mintball "It's extremely moving as well.

And it almost makes you think that, with most of his generation now gone, that's one of things that makes the work of this government easier in its deconstruction of the social contract.'"


As I've said many times on here, as an electorate we get the politicians we deserve. Apathy among the electorate and people being unwilling to hold politicians to account breeds comtempt for the electorate. People need to stand up and be counted. I had a small temporary victory this week by some very pointed questions I wrote to local politicians / public "servants" pointing out their errors, etc. Basically, they had to reverse prices increases they'd foisted on the public, albeit only for a few weeks. Hold the filth to account if you want to stop them.

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St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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