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Olympics and various sports World Cups, are just a way of increasing Coca Cola, McDonalds, Burger King, Visa etc etc profiles, i'm sure elite athletes could just meet up on a park somewhere and save us billions to spend on hospitals and medicines

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Quote: cod'ead "rlGet knittedrl'"


Everything that's wrong with the Games in one story.

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Quote: Mintball "Everything that's wrong with the Games in one story.'"


"London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games (Locog) told the project organisers the stall wasn’t going to be possible, with “commercial sponsors” cited as the reason."


That is the most sickening part of that story.

Some head of some corporate giant got wind of some locals making cushions and actually thought, no i'm not having that, put a stop to it.

This planet, us humans, i despair.

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Quote: Horatio Yed ""London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games (Locog) told the project organisers the stall wasn’t going to be possible, with “commercial sponsors” cited as the reason."


That is the most sickening part of that story.

Some head of some corporate giant got wind of some locals making cushions and actually thought, no i'm not having that, put a stop to it.

This planet, us humans, i despair.'"


I doubt very much it will have come from any sponsor, it will be the legal/licencing team from LOCOG, or from the delivery group.

The Olympics is the single biggest brand exercise ever, of course Beryl and Betty weren't going to be able to give away a few cushions, they were pretty daft to believe they would be. I spent many an hour at venue's covering branded items with tape so the logo wouldn't make it onto the TV/press coverage. Are people really this naieve, it's not right, but it's the way it goes.

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Anyway you look at it though, it's pathetic.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Anyway you look at it though, it's pathetic.'"


it's not pathetic, it's just how it works, without the huge corporations these events wouldn't happen.

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Quote: Standee "it's not pathetic, it's just how it works, without the huge corporations these events wouldn't happen.'"


If they can't include everyone, then maybe no bad thing, it's becoming on big advert for the businesses rather than sport.

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Quote: Standee "it's not pathetic, it's just how it works, without the huge corporations these events wouldn't happen.'"


Some people actually think that the government are footing the bill for everything and completely forget about the revenue streams the Olympics brings (and needs).

Since Montreal in 1976, every Summer Olympics has made a profit (except for maybe Beijing, although we'll never kno either way).

It really grinds my gears hearing people and journalists whinge about how much the Olympics is costing, without even sparing a thought for what's coming the other way.

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Quote: Barnabus "Some people actually think that the government are footing the bill for everything and completely forget about the revenue streams the Olympics brings (and needs).

Since Montreal in 1976, every Summer Olympics has made a profit (except for maybe Beijing, although we'll never kno either way).

It really grinds my gears hearing people and journalists whinge about how much the Olympics is costing, without even sparing a thought for what's coming the other way.'"


but that's the rub, it's far too easy to hate big business (for the sake of it) and lamping them for everything they do, people bemoan McDonalds but never mention the millions of pounds they invest with the FA (UK alone), people hate TESCO despite them employing tens of thousands of people. It always makes me laugh when some peope on here lambast business, the very business that they rely on for their pension.

Capitalism works, communism doesn't.

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Quote: Standee "people bemoan McDonalds but never mention the millions of pounds they invest with the FA (UK alone)'"


But people can't complain about the irony of purveyors of fast food products sponsoring major sports events? This is their attempt to detoxify their brand the same way tobacco brands and drink brands tried before them, if you can't see that then you are not looking.

London 2012 had no say in these headline sponsors, doesn't make it right though.

Quote: Standee "people hate TESCO despite them employing tens of thousands of people.'"


No people hate Tesco because of their employment practices, the way the treat suppliers and there constant mendacious price fiddling.

Quote: Standee "Capitalism works, communism doesn't.'"


Remind me, what state is world finance in at the moment?

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No people hate Tesco because of their employment practices, the way the treat suppliers and there constant mendacious price fiddling.'"


And even though they are a multi billion pound business they still participated in this governments work programme expecting JSA claimants to work for free, not giving them an interview at the end of the placement and then onto the next round of JSA claimants. Lets not forget that fiasco.

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Quote: Barnabus "Some people actually think that the government are footing the bill for everything and completely forget about the revenue streams the Olympics brings (and needs).

Since Montreal in 1976, every Summer Olympics has made a profit (except for maybe Beijing, although we'll never kno either way).

It really grinds my gears hearing people and journalists whinge about how much the Olympics is costing, without even sparing a thought for what's coming the other way.'"


So, as a London taxpayer, precisely what bang am I getting for my buck?

And no.

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See Graeme's question.

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Quote: Mintball "So, as a London taxpayer, precisely what bang am I getting for my buck?
'"


All our taxes are contributing to the games, not just those living in London. Unless you're paying vastly increased council tax?

And as a Londoner, you're left with an Olympic Park / Stadium and a much improved transport infrastructure. That's just two things, there are plenty other benefits to Londoners that the people in the rest of the UK won't have.

Quote: Mintball "And no.'"


My post wasn't referring to the profits of any sponsors or any other third parties, but profits made from hosting the games itself.

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Quote: Standee "but that's the rub, it's far too easy to hate big business (for the sake of it) and lamping them for everything they do, people bemoan McDonalds but never mention the millions of pounds they invest with the FA (UK alone), people hate TESCO despite them employing tens of thousands of people. It always makes me laugh when some peope on here lambast business, the very business that they rely on for their pension.

Capitalism works, communism doesn't.'"


As I understand it, McDonald's are the sole vendors of food (I use the term loosely) to the games audiences.
Credit card payments can only be made via Visa.
Only Coca Cola will be allowed to sell drinks within 100m of the Olympic Park.

And, wait for it, there's actually an Olympic-branded [sizeMonopoly[/size Board Game out now.
The irony is stunning.

Capitalism works but it needs keeping in check.

Your comment about Tesco and pensions is so vacuous I don't know why I am bothering to reply to it ... but quite honestly, when a firm shifts its profits around to avoid tax as much as Tesco does, which section of society gets its pension boosted?
Not many of those on the checkouts or stacking shelves at any rate.

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 Sun 25th May 2025
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 Sat 31st May 2025
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 Sun 1st Jun 2025
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Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
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Hull KR-Castleford
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Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
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15:00
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SL
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Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
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Wakefield-Hull KR
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Warrington-Catalans
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Hull FC-Wigan
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SL
20:00
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This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
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