AS far as I'm aware, Sweden never closed their schools and i believe they've had maybe 1 death. And as the stats shows, their is no covid-19 epidemic in the uk anymore

325k comes from the Governments own stats site

I agree there is a trade off of risk - if we all wore Hazmat suits all day I am sure the infection would spread less - but that is not an option.

Fair enough - but what is it? I’m guessing confirmed cases? Given we’ve had 40k+ deaths at least partly attributed to or associated with Covid-19 and excess mortality of 60k+, I’d assume there must have been a lot of unrecorded cases based on the estimates of risk of death I’ve seen. And our testing capacity was limited at the first peak of the crisis. If it killed > 10% of people who got it, that would be even more frightening than it actually is.

Bottom Line: Children are as expendable as the rest of us on the Tory altar of profit and greed.

The question is how long will the no face mask stance last. Will he stand by the decision after sending out the cabinet or will he as per usual do a u-turn and send out the already damages Gavin Williamson to explain what changed.

Quote: World of Redboy "AS far as I'm aware, Sweden never closed their schools and i believe they've had maybe 1 death. And as the stats shows, their is no covid-19 epidemic in the uk anymore'" Well.....it's not 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 81436.html

Quote: World of Redboy "AS far as I'm aware, Sweden never closed their schools and i believe they've had maybe 1 death. And as the stats shows, their is no covid-19 epidemic in the uk anymore'" Well.....it's not 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 81436.html

I am obviously getting the hang of how this government operates.

lol
You cant claim any credit for predicting his next move.

Exaggerate, waffle, U turn.

I didn’t see the mutation of the algorithm, that’s a new one. I bet Starmer won’t know where to start at the first PM questions, he has so much material over a short period to work from.

All Starmer need to do is let Boris fall on his own sword.
Severely tested but, boy, has he been found wanting.

They called us bitter Socialists when such accusations were made pre the GE but.........................
Having said that, the very fact that Labour, in 10 years of opposition, couldn't organise themselves to defeat this shower, is warning itself.
The HAVE to find enough middle ground to appeal to the masses and then supplement this with some decent policies.

The real issue for the Tories, which hasn't even been brokered yet, is, just how and when will the accrued debt (which makes the last recession look like the good times) be paid for.

Huge unemployment, huge business failures, massively shrinking tax receipts and a debt that dwarfs anything seen in our lifetime,

All the noise is that Boris will abdicate in January, probably on "ill health" and then what ?

(oh yeah, let's not forget Brexit)

The debt will be paid down over decades - we will not be the only country in this situation.

Everything will be overlooked if the government start to get things right from now and that is the biggest challenge going forward.

Boris needs to upgrade his cabinet and quickly - the likes of Williamson have been found wanting and need binning, a line drawing under where we are and effective policies instigated and implemented. Understand the country's mood and work with it.

Immigration is still an issue, returning to normality i.e. going back to office - which is more about the commute than working in the office and the cost of it - something needs to be done.

Put the exams back a month but don't cancel them again etc. No more austerity but no huge increases in public sector pay either - achieve a balance - encourage voters to return to normal.

We have become a nation terrified of this virus - its bonkers

What I find a little strange is that, although the small local businesses need their regular customers, who may be those who work in town and city centres, with the importance of getting kids back to school, it would be more sensible to leave people working from home until the schools are "bedded back in".
This will help stress on public transport and also help ensure that we dont have to back track on schools.
Trying to get schools back, everyone back in their usual place of work, eating out etc, all at the same time is surely going to see cases rise and with so many towns and cities (especially up North) getting close to hitting new restrictions, "we" seem to be turning the tap to full, instead of increasing the flow at a sensible level.
It seems that there is genuine panic starting to set in over the economy but, if we move too quickly, we will end up going backwards instead of forward.