The humiliation over the exposure of your bull**** over the ozone layer and WTO rules must still sting.

Again you assume anyone who is more informed or not in thrall to your hard right view is a "socialist" (a simplistic term if ever there was one given the mixed economy in which we live). I've voted Tory most of the times I've voted and have never voted Labour. All in the past of course, that was before the party was taken over by the extremist wing which you appear to support. Fortunately I live in a seat where I can meaningfully now vote for neither of them.

As a catholic who married into a large (connected) Protestant NI family I can assure you that whilst Drugs, Prostitution and Protection were money spinners, the blokes who buried (note....didn't give up) their weapons have been waiting for an excuse to dig them up. Stick a traffic warden in uniform on the border and you're inane comparison with inner city youth using blades on each other will be exposed as nothing other than "flannel" to disguise a real issue in terms of delivering a deal on Brexit.
A good friend of mine attended an event in NYC last month where £7,500,000 was raised to fund a "new conflict" should the need arise. The IRA, should they feel the need to re-engage with the British public and armed forces will have no qualms about revisiting past atrocities......remember, The Omagh bombing was at the end of the conflict and showed a change in tactic from the past, with a false warning given to maximise casualties. If Britain causes these nutjobs to take up arms just to defend the tax rights of the super rich, then it will be the innocent people who will pay the price and Britain will have ZERO sympathy from the world as it will be a problem entirely of their own making.
Brexit has to happen, but the belief that Britain is a bigger trading partner than the collective EU is insane. Britain is the smaller negotiator and will nt get the deal they want or the brexit the people voted for

I dont disagree with you post but, what was the "Brexit the people voted for".
So many people voted for so many different reasons, which is why it has take so long to sort out (or not).

Farage and the right of the Tory party, who have been fundamentally unhappy with the "ever closer union", stirred up a campaign based on immigration which was the easiest way for them to provoke public outrage, when it's mere likely that they wanted "full control" of the UK, rather than having influence from Brussels.
However, it's reasonable to suggest that most people were more unhappy with immigration than influence from the EU and the vast, vast majority had and still have no idea of quite what is involved in our separation and this is true of both "leave" and "remain".
Throw in the blatant lies from both sides.

Whatever happens, there will be at least half of the UK population unhappy with the outcome, which isn't great

Ah, the Spectator. Owned by those upstanding members of the community, the Barclay Brothers. They haven't got an agenda at all, have they?

They are that wealthy that Brexit will have very limited impact on them so they can pretty much write what they like no need to take either side.

Your capacity to make yourself look ignorant knows no bounds. The EU is trying to clamp down on tax avoidance. It’s also looking quite closely at the malign effect of big media monopolies. So, If these people can get Britain out of the EU, their companies will be out of its jurisdiction. Also … the workers’ rights that the EU has championed will be eroded once the UK leaves. These off-shore patriots avoid paying their fair share of tax while persecuting the poor in their rag.

You are right, in that their wealth means that they will be unaffected personally, whether we are in or out.
However, they use their wealth and influence to drive their own agenda and try to sway public opinion in favour of their preferred Brexit outcome.

Finding any balanced media output is becoming increasingly difficult and most people just surround themselves with that, which they want to hear.

There is the old adage about keeping friends close and enemies closer and without fully understanding the "enemies" position, the battle can never be won.

I agree, every media outlet has its own agenda - the BBC is very pro-remain as is Channel 4 - their influence is far greater than anything the Barclay Brothers can muster.

That would include the BBC's Andrew Neil, Chairman of The Spectator. Neil has been widely seen as promoting a pro-Brexit line in his role as a key BBC political presenter and also been accused by journalist Carole Cadwalldr of breaching the BBC’s code by using his Twitter account to rubbish her vital investigative journalism into illegal activity by the Leave campaigns – journalism that recently won her the Orwell Prize.

I believe the specifics were that he joined with Aaron Banks in labelling her a 'crazy cat lady' for her tenacity in reporting on the dodgy dealings of Farage, Banks and Cambridge Analytica; journalism which turned out to be wholly true and as you say, award-winning.

The BBC is an interesting conundrum - it's comedy and arts output probably is pro-Remain, but it's news and current affairs is heavily biased towards the Tory government, staffed as it is by former spads planted by David Cameron. The revolving door he created between BBC News and No 10 remains in full effect to this day.

Funny how people see things differently. As someone who is pro brexit I see the BBC and ITV for that matter as being biased towards remain. Not saying who is right or wrong just strange how we see the same thing in opposite ways. However I don't think anyone can despute that the Mash Report is unashamedly left wing and rabidly remain!

The BBC and most British television news is biased towards the recent and the sensational over the important. But they do, at least, usually report facts, which is why I imagine Brexiteers feel they are biased against them.

You imagine wrong in my case.

Quote: Sal Paradise wrote " The figures for them have already been mentioned which are way above what they were when under public ownership'" Quote: Sal Paradise wrote " IR80 mentioned them IFRC 96% within 5 minutes 90% within 5 minutes'" Quote: Sal Paradise wrote " I gave you the stats for Northern Rail, using the formally adopted metrics of the rail industry. You said rail punctuality is significantly better under privatisation. I have proven it isn't. So, you have repeatedly said I make things up. You have still to show one thing.'" Oh dear, even the woman assaulting, racist, lying, narcissistic, adulterer PM doesn't agree with you. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50067806

Quote: Sal Paradise wrote " The figures for them have already been mentioned which are way above what they were when under public ownership'" Quote: Sal Paradise wrote " IR80 mentioned them IFRC 96% within 5 minutes 90% within 5 minutes'" Quote: Sal Paradise wrote " I gave you the stats for Northern Rail, using the formally adopted metrics of the rail industry. You said rail punctuality is significantly better under privatisation. I have proven it isn't. So, you have repeatedly said I make things up. You have still to show one thing.'" Oh dear, even the woman assaulting, racist, lying, narcissistic, adulterer PM doesn't agree with you. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50067806

No arguments from me about the Mash Report - as I said, most of the comedy output is left wing and remain; which probably reflects the attitude of most people involved in art and entertainment.

I fail to see how anyone can label the BBC as pro-Remain; they are effectively stenographers for the Government of the day, and have probably played the biggest part in legitimising the odious nutjobs who sold Brexit to us in the first place, based on their ridiculous need to create 'balance' in every discussion. Not to mention that funny, posh, tousle-haired 'Boris' is largely a BBC creation.