It's not very good quality footage so can be difficult to see at times, but I've just re-watched the second piece of footage where he is off his bike and can make out at least 5 people on the public side of the gate, as the only people on the Downing Street side are Mitchell and the 2 officers.

This is the crucial part, this is the bit that shows the whole charade for what it is, an attempt, with or without the collusion of senior party members (and some have stepped to his side) by Mitchell to clamber back on the gravy wagon of a Ministerial position, he probably actually believes that the whole thing was a set up but has been distracted by the fact that the evidence that his people have uncovered does not discount anything that the two officers directly concerned with the incident have written in sworn statements.

The third "witness" does not distract from the two sworn statements, clearly Mitchell believes it does, clearly the Dispatches program did but then again it jumped to the conclusion that nothign was being said because they couldn't see it being said and unfortunately they forgot to go back the the suppliers of the video and ask if this is the best they've got.

Police apologits ? Nope
Bag a Tory ? Nope, he bagged himself

I just hate being taken for a mug by those who should know better than to try.

Can't be d with this whole non-story to be honest.....Surprising thing is though that some people still believe that the police are straight-up honest folk, who would have no desire to lie and create a story which serves their own self interests.

Police, politicians.....most are bent and should be treated with the contempt that other crooks are treated to.

Correct.

So 120,000 to 130,000 coppers and to quote you "most are bent".
Oh the joys of the well educated ones with well reasoned arguments. Words sadly fail me.

What we have here is an MP who has sworn at police officers by his own admittance. That to me is contempt. They were simply carrying out orders.
We then have a situation were a third party police officer has seen fit for reasons only known to him to make political gain from it.
I am sure we will find out why sometime next year. Either with an IPCC statement or a court appearance.
I am curious in all this to know why West Midlands police federation became so involved in this matter. It had absolutely nothing to do with them. They don't directly represent Met officers yet got themselves tangled up in this sorry saga.

No it's not correct, actually watch the footage.

The number 1, however, is the grand total of participants in one of your polls on Margaret Thatcher.

The Guardian

Embarrassing to keep making things up in this way.

If you are seeing people who aren't there I suggest you visit an optician.

I'll say it again, actually watch the footage. The footage released by Andrew Mitchell. It is clear to see, from the point he stops his bike and is obviously talking to the police, more than one person pass by at that point. Then for some reason there is a gap in the released footage and it switches to another camera pointed at the footgate where we see Mitchell off his bike, with more people passing by outside the gate.

I'd say stop embarrassing yourself after your pathetic attempt to label a 1 man poll as representative of an entire nation but a YouGov poll is somehow biased, the last thing you need is to embarrass yourself further with this ridiculous fawning defence of someone who's already admitted to swearing at police because he couldn't be [ia[/irsed to get off his bike.

...and when all is said and done, he could have ridden his bike through the side gate, no-one told him to get off and push it.

I wonder if somone at Conservative Party HQ had watched rlWag the Dogrl at the weekend?

The CCTV videos are here: www.channel4.com/news/andrew-mit ... ing-street starting from c.3.5 mins. in.

The CCTV videos are here: www.channel4.com/news/andrew-mit ... ing-street starting from c.3.5 mins. in.

It was a stitch up so the police federation had ammunition to attack the Govt with as payback for cuts to policing.

But now they have been found out.

'Pleb' - couldn't of fabricated a better word to be honest, as in the opinion of Tory haters like 'Him' and 'Jerry Chicken', he would have definitely used a word like this. Only he didn't, it was lies. If the police had said he used the C word, people just wouldn't have been as inclined to believe it. Very conniving.