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Another example of shocking policy decisions by the government.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... SApp_Other


I don’t know how the DVLA’s systems work but many of the roles could be done at home remotely afaik and alternatively decisions could be made to say extend MOT’s, amnesties on driving licence renewals etc to reduce the number of staff required to work


No wonder the death rate is so high when even when we are apparently in “lockdown” it’s clear it is only a “half a lockdown”. The longer this goes on in such a half hearted way the longer and greater the risks become to everyone because of the virus.
Another example of shocking policy decisions by the government.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... SApp_Other


I don’t know how the DVLA’s systems work but many of the roles could be done at home remotely afaik and alternatively decisions could be made to say extend MOT’s, amnesties on driving licence renewals etc to reduce the number of staff required to work


No wonder the death rate is so high when even when we are apparently in “lockdown” it’s clear it is only a “half a lockdown”. The longer this goes on in such a half hearted way the longer and greater the risks become to everyone because of the virus.


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Quote: Durham Giant "Have to say following the information from Israel and now from the BMA about the efficacy of one vaccine dose rather than two I have revised my view and feel that both doses should be given especially to the vulnerable within recommended guidelines. '"

I would expect our government to do a bit more than the average punter - it's ok for us, most of the time, to bin that little bit of paper full of densely-written instructions that comes with our drugs. They, on the other hand, really should pay attention to it.

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The government need to start producing stats of those people testing positive who have had the one Pfizer jab - that will then put this to bed one way or the other.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "The government need to start producing stats of those people testing positive who have had the one Pfizer jab - that will then put this to bed one way or the other.'"


Does the vaccine stop you from catching COVID - not sure it does, or maybe I’ve misunderstood it

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "The government need to start producing stats of those people testing positive who have had the one Pfizer jab - that will then put this to bed one way or the other.'"




EDIT. DURHAM GIANT


THIS POST WAS FULL OF DANGEROUS , IGNORANT RUBBISH SO HAS BEEN EDITED

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If they publish the figures it will help to support the government's strategy - people especially the young are not taking the lockdown as seriously as they were - we need to understand why the death rate is so high here.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "If they publish the figures it will help to support the government's strategy - people especially the young are not taking the lockdown as seriously as they were - we need to understand why the death rate is so high here.'"


It's so high because we are unwilling to control or track movements of people coming and going to and from the UK and we have a government who have been slow to take action (3 times) and have relaxed the rules too early and they keep on doing the same bloody thing.

They told students to go to Uni (yet now they are told not to return), they told everyone it was ok to have a get together at Christmas and then changed their mind at the last minute, they told everyone to go back to their place of work and yet now, they have decided that it's better for them to work from home.

It's not difficult to see whey the numbers are so high.

The repeating theme is too little, too late again and again and again and lets not even mention our "world beating" test and trace system" - 10's of billions of pounds have been thrown at this and my Gran could have done a better job and she passed away 15 years ago.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It's so high because we are unwilling to control or track movements of people coming and going to and from the UK and we have a government who have been slow to take action (3 times) and have relaxed the rules too early and they keep on doing the same bloody thing.

They told students to go to Uni (yet now they are told not to return), they told everyone it was ok to have a get together at Christmas and then changed their mind at the last minute, they told everyone to go back to their place of work and yet now, they have decided that it's better for them to work from home.

It's not difficult to see whey the numbers are so high.

The repeating theme is too little, too late again and again and again and lets not even mention our "world beating" test and trace system" - 10's of billions of pounds have been thrown at this and my Gran could have done a better job and she passed away 15 years ago.'"

But but but! Can you imagine if CORBYN was in charge! eusa_wall.gif

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I've always had a strange fascination with schizotypal personality disorder.

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Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "81% increase in deaths post 'vaccine' yet the people trusted with looking at these matters state there's nothing unusual in the effects of the toxic mRNa crud! Isreal has seen a huge rise in 'covid' positives since the country went all in with the jab.
"More than 12,400 people have tested positive for coronavirus in Israel after getting inoculated by the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine, including 69 people who had taken their second jab.
Israel's health ministry tested 189,000 people after they vaccinated by Pfizer's vaccine and 6.6 per cent of the people still tested positive for COVID-19."
Yet manipulating who they've tested, how many they've tested and when whilst turning down the cycles of PCR as per WHO direction so that you have fewer 'covid positives' is how they've now managed to make the 'vaccine' effective. It's complete BS!
This same scenario is being unfolding here and everywhere to 'prove' that the mRNa toxic agent is effective, that and coming into the warmer months, these people must think we are stupid to not see how you manipulate the numbers!

UK numbers in the over 80s target group.
Average Daily death rate 1 month before 'vaccine' rolled out 158.6
Average Daily death rate 1 month after 'vaccine' rolled out 214.8
Average Daily death rate after vaccine to 21st January 287
Increase in daily death rate post vaccine 35%
Increase in average daily death rate post vaccine to 21st January

Nice twisting of the facts.
Are you suggesting that the vaccine(s) are contributing to the additional deaths or, do you think that the cases and deaths were brought about by increased "mixing" at Christmas and by people, perhaps like yourself, not bothering with social distancing etc.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Nice twisting of the facts.
Are you suggesting that the vaccine(s) are contributing to the additional deaths or, do you think that the cases and deaths were brought about by increased "mixing" at Christmas and by people, perhaps like yourself, not bothering with social distancing etc.'"


The apparent deleting of the post you quote makes me look a right pillock!

I mean, I can manage that on my own.

I did agree that it seemed to be implying that the vaccine is making things worse!

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Nice twisting of the facts.
Are you suggesting that the vaccine(s) are contributing to the additional deaths or, do you think that the cases and deaths were brought about by increased "mixing" at Christmas and by people, perhaps like yourself, not bothering with social distancing etc.'"

when talking to Bumpy, you need to remember, they tried a brain transplant, but they couldn't't find a chicken willing to swap.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "It's so high because we are unwilling to control or track movements of people coming and going to and from the UK and we have a government who have been slow to take action (3 times) and have relaxed the rules too early and they keep on doing the same bloody thing.

They told students to go to Uni (yet now they are told not to return), they told everyone it was ok to have a get together at Christmas and then changed their mind at the last minute, they told everyone to go back to their place of work and yet now, they have decided that it's better for them to work from home.

It's not difficult to see whey the numbers are so high.

The repeating theme is too little, too late again and again and again and lets not even mention our "world beating" test and trace system" - 10's of billions of pounds have been thrown at this and my Gran could have done a better job and she passed away 15 years ago.'"


I am not disagreeing with you but we are testing 500k a day - and finding c30k a day positives so if each person has 6 contacts that is c200k to contact and isolate everyday? Even Germany accepted at levels less than this their T&T couldn't cope.

In terms of our border the only real challenge for us a new more infectious version of the virus - the virus is everywhere so people coming into the country aren't bring anything we don't already have. The US locked its borders but it has one of the worst outcome of anywhere. When do you open it up - this isn't NZ or Aus we are a major hub for European travel

Students were in September we still have >1,000 dying everyday, same goes for eat out and return to work. I see how the younger ones behave - they don't have the same conformity ideals and if I were their age I would probably feel the same.

What is tragic is terminal cancer sufferers what a terrible situation they have lived in for the last 12 months - if you had six months to live in October what enjoyment will you have had?

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "But but but! Can you imagine if CORBYN was in charge!
One thing is for sure - nothing would have happened without the unions allowing it - schools would not go back until we had zero Covid. Our vaccines would have gone to the Palestinians - they would have been a priority - Hamas would have been managing the supply chain as Jeremy and John would have cancelled the army. We would still have been in the EU so our vaccination numbers would have been a fraction of where they are.

But on a positive all the prisoners would have been done icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "One thing is for sure - nothing would have happened without the unions allowing it - schools would not go back until we had zero Covid. Our vaccines would have gone to the Palestinians - they would have been a priority - Hamas would have been managing the supply chain as Jeremy and John would have cancelled the army. We would still have been in the EU so our vaccination numbers would have been a fraction of where they are.

But on a positive all the prisoners would have been done The scary thing is you actually believe some of that stuff.

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Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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