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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Once I googled the idiot who is on the video, I didn't even watch it. As with bren2k, political bias and not reasoned thought.'"
Just to be clear, are you suggesting that your own views are entirely rational and objective?
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| Quote: bren2k "I know - great isn't he?'"
possibly to you, to me, he's a bit of an idiot, actually, a lot of an imbecile.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Just to be clear, are you suggesting that your own views are entirely rational and objective?'"
they are my views, which is what debate is all about, isn't it?
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "they are my views, which is what debate is all about, isn't it?'"
But you asked for a link to Stewart Lee's Brexit thing - because, and I quote, you are "always keen to learn." Then you refused to watch the video because you disagree with his views, which you haven't actually heard?
Did you captain the debating team, or were you just an enthusiastic groupie?
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| Quote: bren2k "But you asked for a link to Stewart Lee's Brexit thing - because, and I quote, you are "always keen to learn." Then you refused to watch the video because you disagree with his views, which you haven't actually heard?
Did you captain the debating team, or were you just an enthusiastic groupie?'"
I read about him, he's a rampant socialist, which means he has nothing to say of any relevance. All he does is pander to the left wing who support him, no insight, no balance, just an angry little man (with stupid hair for a man of his age).
If he was relevant, I'd have heard of him.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "I read about him, he's a rampant socialist, which means he has nothing to say of any relevance. All he does is pander to the left wing who support him, no insight, no balance, just an angry little man (with stupid hair for a man of his age).
If he was relevant, I'd have heard of him.'"
You should watch one of his shows - I think he reads out emails from you at the end.
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| Quote: bren2k "You should watch one of his shows - I think he reads out emails from you at the end.'"
Why would I waste my time watching an unintelligent ret... oh hang on, I reply on the Sin Bin often enough
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "they are my views, which is what debate is all about, isn't it?'"
Absolutely, it’s just you’ve mentioned bias and clouded judgement a couple of times and I wondered if you were drawing a distinction.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Absolutely, it’s just you’ve mentioned bias and clouded judgement a couple of times and I wondered if you were drawing a distinction.'"
not at all, we all have a bias, but on this occasion I think both (or all) political sides need to put their politics aside and do the best for US, the more I listen to politicians, the more I think the Ketamine/Chrystal Meth market must be booming.
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| Quote: bren2k "Tempted to quote Stewart Lee here - but I don't want to get banned.
You're not far wrong though - a lot of people voted leave because they were exercised about FoM - fuelled by lies and rhetoric, which convinced them that all the things that were wrong in their lives, were caused by immigration.
As Will Self said the other day in his real-time humiliation of Mark Francois, not everyone who voted leave were racists, but most racists probably voted to leave.'"
So, would you mind explaining why people who voted to leave because of freedom of movement (not imigration), only did it because they were fuelled by lies and Rhetoric, secondly can you tell me how you know this ??.
Can you also explain why in your opinion most racists voted to leave ??,
Ive no doubt some did and used it as we saw the in the unfortunate rise of racist abuse following the referendum. How many times do we see largely peaceful demonstration infiltrated by morons who want to use it as a lever for thuggery, we have seen it in our game by a very small unwelcome minority. My point is imo people will use this type of thing for their own warped opinion, there is nothing to say that it wouldn't have happened if the vote would have gone the other way.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "I read about him, he's a rampant socialist, which means he has nothing to say of any relevance. All he does is pander to the left wing who support him, no insight, no balance, just an angry little man (with stupid hair for a man of his age).
If he was relevant, I'd have heard of him.'"
Then I suggest you carry on watching Mrs Brown's Boys.
Stu is without doubt the best British Stand-up comedian in this country, but I presume you err more for the likes of Micheal McIntyre.
Stupid Hair? - Really.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Then I suggest you carry on watching Mrs Brown's Boys.
Stu is without doubt the best British Stand-up comedian in this country, but I presume you err more for the likes of Micheal McIntyre.
Stupid Hair? - Really.'" I detest Mrs Browns Boys, Stewart (not Stu) is an idiot, he may agree with your politics, that doesn't make him funny.
I think it is time your trolling was stopped. You clearly are a Labour anarchist.
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| Quote: POSTL "So, would you mind explaining why people who voted to leave because of freedom of movement (not imigration), only did it because they were fuelled by lies and Rhetoric, secondly can you tell me how you know this ??.
Can you also explain why in your opinion most racists voted to leave ??,
Ive no doubt some did and used it as we saw the in the unfortunate rise of racist abuse following the referendum. How many times do we see largely peaceful demonstration infiltrated by morons who want to use it as a lever for thuggery, we have seen it in our game by a very small unwelcome minority. My point is imo people will use this type of thing for their own warped opinion, there is nothing to say that it wouldn't have happened if the vote would have gone the other way.'"
I didn't say the sole reason was lies and rhetoric - but I'm pretty sure it was a factor; Aaron Banks and his Cambridge IA algorithm powered online campaign have admitted to using targeted FB ads to fuel people's fears and prejudices, not to mention Nigel Farage with his poster showing Syrian refugees and pretending they were European, and various people lying about Turkey's accession to the EU; in a time when so many working class people have terrible life chances and a paucity of opportunity, it doesn't take much to create an enemy upon which they can aim their dissatisfaction and frustration - in this case, EU migrants, who apparently take all our jobs and houses, fill up our schools, claim loads of benefits and overcrowd our hospitals - despite none of that being actually true.
I could explain why I think most racists voted to leave - but I think you went on to do that yourself quite neatly.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "I detest Mrs Browns Boys, Stewart (not Stu) is an idiot, he may agree with your politics, that doesn't make him funny.
I think it is time your trolling was stopped. You clearly are a Labour anarchist.'"
My Trolling!
Stu is obviously not an idiot, he doesn't agree with my anything & how can I be a Labour anarchist?
You really need to chill a little & look forward to the country crashing out of the E.U. without a deal - Brexit Nirvana.
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