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Quote: Wanderer "This one ran well past the 100-page point but has recently gone dormant. Anyone wishing to start another Brexit thread, feel free to do so.'"


In anticipation of forthcoming events I thought I'd get it ready for the next compulsive installment!

After the lull in proceedings it sounds like our beloved leader is to bring her withdrawal bill back for the fourth time in early June.

She has threatened to quit if she gets it through, & now the Tory machine have instructed her to go if it fails!

BoJo has already thrown his hat in the ring, presumably with many more to follow, Labour still fence sitting, Farage's latest incarnation & the Independent Group joining the party.

Strangely, I've missed Brexit. - Let the games begin.

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It will be mighty interesting to see just what happens when May does bring her deal back to Parliament.
Thankfully, she's stuffed either way.

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I never thought we'd see it fo on this long, ot is clear parliament do not act on the will of the people. !aybe we should have a referendum about having another referendum?

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Quote: MGarbutt1986 "I never thought we'd see it fo on this long, ot is clear parliament do not act on the will of the people. !aybe we should have a referendum about having another referendum?'"

You either need a new keyboard or smaller fingers.

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Quote: silver2 "You either need a new keyboard or smaller fingers.'"


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Quote: silver2 "You either need a new keyboard or smaller fingers.'"

I use a tablet, all the active content on here makes the keyboard unreliable. I don't tend to double check posts, it isn't unclear what I am writing.

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I wish that I'd taken more notice of his name but, listening to on of the Brexit Party's candidates for the West Midlands was just hilarious (quite sad actually).
He was asked about their policies.
One policy only, to leave the EU with No Deal and he was further questioned regarding the Irish Border and he said that there wouldn't be on.
All good so far.

He was then asked how goods would be "checked" to ensure that there wasn't any contraband or goods avoiding taxes in either direction.
He said that they would run the risk of random checks.

When it was pointed out to him that there wouldn't be any check points or people to man these checkpoints, he said that it would all be dealt with after the election icon_surprised.gifops:

What a set of lying lovers they are.

The Tories hadn't got a plan and Farage hasn't either, other than getting us out on WTO terms, brilliant.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I wish that I'd taken more notice of his name but, listening to on of the Brexit Party's candidates for the West Midlands was just hilarious (quite sad actually).
He was asked about their policies.
One policy only, to leave the EU with No Deal and he was further questioned regarding the Irish Border and he said that there wouldn't be on.
All good so far.

He was then asked how goods would be "checked" to ensure that there wasn't any contraband or goods avoiding taxes in either direction.
He said that they would run the risk of random checks.

When it was pointed out to him that there wouldn't be any check points or people to man these checkpoints, he said that it would all be dealt with after the election
Not to mention that Farridge himself is once again subject to an investigation about the legality of his funding - since it's now emerged that Aron Banks provided him with 30 grand a month expenses, a car and driver, and a whopping great house in London - all undeclared.

The man is a total fraud and a con artist; how any decent human being can see him as an anti-establishment figure worthy of your protest vote, is beyond my ken; he literally *is* the establishment.

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So, a predictable EP election result. I terms of vote share, it's still very much a simple leave or remain question, nobody wants a soft Brexit hence the result for the Tories and Labour.

Vote share:

Hard Brexit - 35%
Soft Brexit - 23%
Remain - 40%

The media and politicians have talked for months of compromise, but its's clear hardly anyone wants to, and although I think there should be 2nd referendum, it's also clear that it certainly won't be the thing that heals the division that's taken place in the last few years,

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "So, a predictable EP election result. I terms of vote share, it's still very much a simple leave or remain question, nobody wants a soft Brexit hence the result for the Tories and Labour.

Vote share

Although it was a terrible night for the Tories, Labour, as the main opposition party, had a shocker.
Their policy of sitting on the fence and hoping for a Tory implosion has cost them dear.

They had to (and still have to) pick a side and stop fannying about, hoping to please everyone.

Like the Tories, their party is split but, there appears to be a majority of remainers and they need to pick their side and come out swinging.
It wont be easy as Farage has all the momentum and IF they become a remain party, they will be accused of going against the will of the people.

Alternatively, in the interests of avoiding "no deal" they may need to swallow their collective pride and vote through the lasts incarnation of May's deal.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I wish that I'd taken more notice of his name but, listening to on of the Brexit Party's candidates for the West Midlands was just hilarious (quite sad actually).
He was asked about their policies.
One policy only, to leave the EU with No Deal and he was further questioned regarding the Irish Border and he said that there wouldn't be on.
All good so far.

He was then asked how goods would be "checked" to ensure that there wasn't any contraband or goods avoiding taxes in either direction.
He said that they would run the risk of random checks.

When it was pointed out to him that there wouldn't be any check points or people to man these checkpoints, he said that it would all be dealt with after the election
I take your point and if it was a general election I would be horrified, however, lets be honest, in the very short time they have been in existence its hardly surprising is it. Why would they at this point get involved in the border issue, I thought that is the gift of our elected MP's in Parliament. Lets also be honest have the jokers in Parliament actually come up with a solution that has been agreed which would work. I'm actually pleased he did say he was in agreement to not having a border to be fair. just a small point I didn't vote for the Brexit Party

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Quote: POSTL "I take your point and if it was a general election I would be horrified, however, lets be honest, in the very short time they have been in existence its hardly surprising is it. Why would they at this point get involved in the border issue, I thought that is the gift of our elected MP's in Parliament. Lets also be honest have the jokers in Parliament actually come up with a solution that has been agreed which would work. I'm actually pleased he did say he was in agreement to not having a border to be fair. just a small point I didn't vote for the Brexit Party'"


You ask why they would get involved in the Irish Border issue ??

It's totally reasonable to think that they would have a solution, after all, they are a one issue party.

For such an enlightened party, it's reasonable to believe they may actually have thought about THE major stumbling block in the current negotiations.
As for only having been in existence for a short time ?
You are being a little cruel on Farage there.
He's a career politician and has basically moved in to the space vacated by UKIP

If only politics was so simple ??

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Quote: wrencat1873 "You ask why they would get involved in the Irish Border issue ??

It's totally reasonable to think that they would have a solution, after all, they are a one issue party.

For such an enlightened party, it's reasonable to believe they may actually have thought about THE major stumbling block in the current negotiations.
As for only having been in existence for a short time ?
You are being a little cruel on Farage there.
He's a career politician and has basically moved in to the space vacated by UKIP

If only politics was so simple ??'"


Yes they currently are a one issue party and lets be fair at the moment its to shake up the two main parties who are not delivering and nothing more. If they want to be taken seriously as anything else eg to vote for in a general election then they now need to start looking a whole range of policies which will include a whole range of issues on leaving the EU if we have not already done so.
With regards to being unfair to Farage, I do agree he is a career politician but with the best will in the world you cannot put a new party together in as short a time as this and have everything boxed off. Look at Change UK all seasoned politicians even current PMs yet they couldn't even get there logo sorted and put someone up for election in these election that didn't want to.
The trouble with these new parties is they generally shoot themselves in the foot as UKIP has done, The Brexit Party for me has already done it by putting forward an alleged IRA sympathiser in the Northwest.

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Quote: POSTL "Yes they currently are a one issue party and lets be fair at the moment its to shake up the two main parties who are not delivering and nothing more. If they want to be taken seriously as anything else eg to vote for in a general election then they now need to start looking a whole range of policies which will include a whole range of issues on leaving the EU if we have not already done so.
With regards to being unfair to Farage, I do agree he is a career politician but with the best will in the world you cannot put a new party together in as short a time as this and have everything boxed off. Look at Change UK all seasoned politicians even current PMs yet they couldn't even get there logo sorted and put someone up for election in these election that didn't want to.
The trouble with these new parties is they generally shoot themselves in the foot as UKIP has done, The Brexit Party for me has already done it by putting forward an alleged IRA sympathiser in the Northwest.'"


Although you are right to say that they are a new party, Farage and his buddies have learned from and copied the UKIP version that he began and was successful with a few years ago.
I dont think that Farage has too much interest in leading the party beyond getting Brexit out of the way, which for him, would be job done and equally, he has little interest in any fall out following Brexit and just like Cameron, albeit for different reasons, he will be long gone but, chipping in form the sidelines if/when things start to look grim.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Although you are right to say that they are a new party, Farage and his buddies have learned from and copied the UKIP version that he began and was successful with a few years ago.
I dont think that Farage has too much interest in leading the party beyond getting Brexit out of the way, which for him, would be job done and equally, he has little interest in any fall out following Brexit and just like Cameron, albeit for different reasons, he will be long gone but, chipping in form the sidelines if/when things start to look grim.'"


Only time will tell on that point my friend

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