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Quote: wrencat1873 "How will Brexit make any difference ?
The deals with EDF, to build new Nuclear Power Stations have already been signed (prior to the referendum) and we have effectively agreed to I think a 30% increase by 2020 ?.
Unless you think that Brexit will change this, which it wont, you should expect your energy costs to rise steadily until 2020 and probably beyond.
If we were still digging coal from the ground we may still have some control but, instead, we have put our energy supplies in French hands, oh yeah and then fallen out with them Who mentioned nuclear stations and price increases. And as for this latest increase it took our government by surprise ... so no arrangement there then.
And after that you agree with the point I was making about putting ourselves at the mercy of our lost friends.

Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..

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Quote: Stand-Offish "Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..'"


Apart from the economic powerhouse that is Malta; they've said this morning that they've always been our friend and they always will be - which is very sweet, but not especially reassuring.

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Quote: Stand-Offish "Who mentioned nuclear stations and price increases. And as for this latest increase it took our government by surprise ... so no arrangement there then.
And after that you agree with the point I was making about putting ourselves at the mercy of our lost friends.

Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..'"


You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, which isn't going to happen.
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, [sizewhich isn't going to happen.[/size
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal.'"

You KNOW some stuff you do, and your certainty and faith is touching but possibly misplaced.
A nuclear plant takes ten years to get built and so is irrevant until it happens and produces some juice.

Personally I would bin the French and their technology and money and bin the Chinese and their money.
Pay any penalties, then get the technology and cash from the States. Read this ....
www.theweek.co.uk/60778/hinkley- ... -by-brexit

More up to date but same message ...
www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/1/30/hink ... -by-brexit

And one other thing you brought in EDF, I was talking specifically about nPower putting prices up ... a German owned company. So a French company can dictate what the Germans charge can it?
It's a strange old world where one company can let another company do all the work and still match their price increases. Who would build a nuclear station eh?
Estimated cost £18 Billion .... if past experience is anything to go by it will be 3 or 4 times that. And if we don't pay, they can down tools at £18 Billion. Some penalties no doubt, but they can plead poverty. icon_biggrin.gifD

Edit....I wouldn't get the technology from the States ...too old fashioned.
Quote: wrencat1873 "You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, [sizewhich isn't going to happen.[/size
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal.'"

You KNOW some stuff you do, and your certainty and faith is touching but possibly misplaced.
A nuclear plant takes ten years to get built and so is irrevant until it happens and produces some juice.

Personally I would bin the French and their technology and money and bin the Chinese and their money.
Pay any penalties, then get the technology and cash from the States. Read this ....
www.theweek.co.uk/60778/hinkley- ... -by-brexit

More up to date but same message ...
www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/1/30/hink ... -by-brexit

And one other thing you brought in EDF, I was talking specifically about nPower putting prices up ... a German owned company. So a French company can dictate what the Germans charge can it?
It's a strange old world where one company can let another company do all the work and still match their price increases. Who would build a nuclear station eh?
Estimated cost £18 Billion .... if past experience is anything to go by it will be 3 or 4 times that. And if we don't pay, they can down tools at £18 Billion. Some penalties no doubt, but they can plead poverty. icon_biggrin.gifD

Edit....I wouldn't get the technology from the States ...too old fashioned.


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Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC Newshttps://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/473F/production/_93993281__eu_ref_educated_population.png" >



www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034
Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC Newshttps://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/473F/production/_93993281__eu_ref_educated_population.png" >



www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034


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Quote: DGM "Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC Newshttps://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/473F/production/_93993281__eu_ref_educated_population.png" >




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Quote: Dally "With age comes wisdom.'"

You show very little evidence of that. Being older may give you experience, but that isnt always good. This board is full of older people that have some very jaundiced views and very little knowledge beyond what they WANT to believe.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "You show very little evidence of that. Being older may give you experience, but that isnt always good. This board is full of older people that have some very jaundiced views and very little knowledge beyond what they WANT to believe.'"


A string of unsubstantiated remarks there if ever I saw one! Were you trying to make a point or just fancied typing?

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Quote: Dally "A string of unsubstantiated remarks there if ever I saw one! Were you trying to make a point or just fancied typing?'"


A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom.'"


Aside from the fact that mine was not a string of remarks:

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... sions.html
Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom.'"


Aside from the fact that mine was not a string of remarks:

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... sions.html


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Quote: Dally "Aside from the fact that mine was not a string of remarks:



But it is unsubstantiated and providing a link to the daily mail doesn't prove it otherwise.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "But it is unsubstantiated and providing a link to the daily mail doesn't prove it otherwise.'"

And woosh, he's gone, I cant respect anyone incapable of debate, and in short time posting it seems Dally is exactly that

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.

Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure.'"


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/ ... shows.html

What is your point? Have you put any evidence forward other than your personal, and no doubt juvenile, prejudice?
Quote: PCollinson1990 "The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.

Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure.'"


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/ ... shows.html

What is your point? Have you put any evidence forward other than your personal, and no doubt juvenile, prejudice?


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Quote: PCollinson1990 "The fact you quote that opinonated,disigenous rag kind of makes my point.

Older people like other older peoples opinion, shock news I am sure.'"


In the unlikely event that you might wish to go back to source and then "debate" the issue of Brexit sensibly:

With Age Comes Wisdom
Decision Making in Younger and Older Adults


Darrell A. Worthy, Marissa A. Gorlick, Jennifer L. Pacheco, David M. Schnyer, W. Todd Maddox
First Published September 29, 2011 research-article

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Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
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