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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Bit of a random one but then again this is the sin bin! Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced cheap sat nav that takes traffic into account when it calculates your route? Obviously the cheaper the better but I definitely want it to traffic into consideration. Thanks in advance

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Good question icon_biggrin.gif

I'm looking for a new one too as my last one got binned when it started randomly reciting all of its messages like HAL in 2001 Space Odyssey.

I've been looking at some 5" and 7" unbranded ones from UK dealers on eBay for around £40 to £60 that have 4gb memory included (for other gubbins) but I don't think they do traffic reports.

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TomTom for smartphones is about the best around I've used.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: JerryChicken "Good question Yeah I'd be surprised if I managed it for under £100 but sitting in traffic is hardly cost effective either. The average journey with my current one is:
- Put in postcode, if it was built within the last decade I'm goosed straight away
- Wait absolutely ages for it to find where I am, particularly awkward if people are waving me off, particularly as it definitely won't find me if I'm doing more than 10mph
- Once it finds me, move an inch, at which point it realises I'm facing in the opposite direction and has to recalculate for just as long as before. Doing a U-turn to face the direction it thought I was in just seems to make things worse
- Make a bee-line for the nearest traffic jam*
- Once on the motorway, take me off at the odd junction, send me straight through a roundabout and back onto the same motorway
- Randomly tell me to turn left/right when the map shows straight on, or vice versa
- Stop to recalculate if we go through anywhere built post WW2

*There was one exception to this when Wigan got Featherstone away in the cup. It sent me down a single track farmers road up and down some massive hills that ran parallel to the motorway. This was daft but I can't have a go at the sat nav too much for this because it was the most fun I've ever had in a car with my pants on. My Dad and my best mate were in the back and would definitely disagree like and we were late for the game.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Big Graeme "TomTom for smartphones is about the best around I've used.'"

Does that take traffic into account? How do you get your smartphone in a position where you can see it while driving?

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Quote: Grimmy "Does that take traffic into account? How do you get your smartphone in a position where you can see it while driving?'"


The android version does, dunno about the iPhone version.
Take your pick from here www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw= ... t&_sacat=0
Quote: Grimmy "Does that take traffic into account? How do you get your smartphone in a position where you can see it while driving?'"


The android version does, dunno about the iPhone version.
Take your pick from here www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw= ... t&_sacat=0


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Whats the refresh rate like on a smartphone though ?

I know someone who had satnav on their iPhone a couple (maybe only one) year ago and it was pants, to the extent where he went and bought a satnav.

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Quote: JerryChicken "Whats the refresh rate like on a smartphone though ?

I know someone who had satnav on their iPhone a couple (maybe only one) year ago and it was pants, to the extent where he went and bought a satnav.'"


It's fine. Modern smartphones are far more advanced computers than the ones inside your average standalone satnav unit.

I've not used TomTom in recent years, but I've used Google's on Android and more recently Here Drive on Windows Phone and both are fine. Here Drive factors traffic into account when deciding on the route and when on it as well and is working fine (For example taking me down the M62 and M60 when the M56 was blocked last week. I wouldn't even consider a standalone sat nav unit having used the smartphone ones.

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Quote: JerryChicken "Whats the refresh rate like on a smartphone though ?

I know someone who had satnav on their iPhone a couple (maybe only one) year ago and it was pants, to the extent where he went and bought a satnav.'"


I only use it in town as I can generally find my way to major towns and cities , it more than keeps up with my driving.

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Quote: Big Graeme "I only use it in town as I can generally find my way to major towns and cities , it more than keeps up with my driving.'"


The iPhone navigation system seems particularly crap, certainly the one on Emma's phone is. Didn't Apple have a major problem with Google maps when they launched the iPhone 5?

I've got a Garmin Nuvi with live traffic facility and have usually found it to be excellent. But then my marine navigation and fishfinder are also Garmin, so I could be prejudiced here.

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Quote: cod'ead "The iPhone navigation system seems particularly crap, certainly the one on Emma's phone is. Didn't Apple have a major problem with Google maps when they launched the iPhone 5?'"


That's why I recommended the TomTom app.

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Had to go to Bradford yesterday to pick something up so as always she sets the sat-nav.
Was hungover so I didn't have the energy to tell her that she doesn't really have to turn it on the moment we pull out of her driveway.
Anyway, she taps in somewhere off Thornton Road (is that the longest road in Britain) anyway we manage to miss it and end up somewhere in the hills up Halifax Road.
Being a little p!ssed off I told her to pull over and the gadgey walking the dog seemed to garner some satisfaction in telling us that we wanted to be back about 4 miles the way we'd come.
I thanked him through particularly gritted teeth.

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Quote: cod'ead "The iPhone navigation system seems particularly crap, certainly the one on Emma's phone is. Didn't Apple have a major problem with Google maps when they launched the iPhone 5?

I've got a Garmin Nuvi with live traffic facility and have usually found it to be excellent. But then my marine navigation and fishfinder are also Garmin, so I could be prejudiced here.'"


Not quite. They had a major problem with iOS6 because it remove Google maps and replaced it with Apple maps, which was crap.

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Quote: cod'ead "

I've got a Garmin Nuvi with live traffic facility and have usually found it to be excellent. But then my marine navigation and fishfinder are also Garmin, so I could be prejudiced here.'"


My old man has one (Coach driver) and he cannot recommend it enough. Especially with some of the places he has had to go to in his time.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Looks like Garmin has it! I've just ordered the Garmin Nuvi 2200T for £85 with free lifetime traffic. Thanks for your advice everyone

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15:00
Oldham
v
Newcastle
 Thu 15th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R24
10:50
Penrith
v
Melbourne
 Fri 16th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R24
09:00
Manly
v
NZ Warriors
11:00
Sydney
v
Parramatta
       Championship 2024-R22
19:30
Sheffield
v
Batley
 Sat 17th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R24
06:00
Canterbury
v
Dolphins
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Canberra
10:35
Wests
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
14:30
Hull FC
v
LondonB
17:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
       Championship 2024-R22
17:00
Toulouse
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
19:30
Warrington
v
Leeds
 Sun 18th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R24
05:00
St.George
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Cronulla
v
Newcastle
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
13:30
Leigh
v
Salford
15:00
Catalans
v
Hull KR
       Championship 2024-R22
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Halifax
15:00
Wakefield
v
Widnes
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R20
15:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
15:00
Hunslet
v
Crusaders
15:00
Keighley
v
Oldham
15:00
Newcastle
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
18:30
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
 Thu 22nd Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
10:50
Wests
v
Manly
 Fri 23rd Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
09:00
NZ Warriors
v
Canterbury
11:00
Brisbane
v
Parramatta
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R23
20:00
Castleford
v
Warrington
20:00
Leeds
v
Catalans
 Sat 24th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
06:00
Canberra
v
Penrith
08:30
Melbourne
v
Dolphins
10:35
Souths
v
Newcastle
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R23
14:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
15:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
       Championship 2024-R23
18:00
Featherstone
v
Toulouse
 Sun 25th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R25
05:00
Gold Coast
v
Sydney
07:05
St.George
v
Cronulla
       League One 2024-R21
13:00
Oldham
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R23
15:00
LondonB
v
Leigh
15:00
Wigan
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2024-R23
15:00
Barrow
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Wakefield
15:00
Widnes
v
Sheffield
15:00
York
v
Batley
       League One 2024-R21
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
15:00
Rochdale
v
Crusaders
15:00
Workington
v
Newcastle
 Thu 29th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
10:50
NQL Cowboys
v
Melbourne
 Fri 30th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
09:00
Canterbury
v
Manly
11:00
Penrith
v
Souths
       Championship 2024-R24
19:30
Bradford
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Hull KR
v
Salford
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
 Sat 31st Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
06:00
Parramatta
v
St.George
08:30
Dolphins
v
Brisbane
10:35
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
       League One 2024-R22
14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
Brisbane
v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
11:00
Souths
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
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v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Tue 6th Aug
SL 2 Wigan28-6Leigh
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 20 523 264 259 32
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 20 398 314 84 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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