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Anyone help on this.

My wife had an accident at work and ended up with a fracture and a pot on, she has been on sick with it for 4 weeks and does not get the pot off for another 4 weeks. Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record (last sick was 3 years ago), which has really upset her.

Can they do this, especially as she did it working for them.

Her work mates had told her to claim, but she refused saying it was an accident and no-one was to blame. Loyalty eh!!

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Quote: rover49 "Anyone help on this.

My wife had an accident at work and ended up with a fracture and a pot on, she has been on sick with it for 4 weeks and does not get the pot off for another 4 weeks. Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record (last sick was 3 years ago), which has really upset her.

Can they do this, especially as she did it working for them.

Her work mates had told her to claim, but she refused saying it was an accident and no-one was to blame. Loyalty eh!!'"


My understanding is that a) her boss is a and b) she should fight this.

Is she a member of Unison, one of few occasions where they might actually add value if she is

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Quote: rover49 "Anyone help on this.

My wife had an accident at work and ended up with a fracture and a pot on, she has been on sick with it for 4 weeks and does not get the pot off for another 4 weeks. Her boss (local authority) rang her today to tell her that he is giving her a formal warning for her sick record (last sick was 3 years ago), which has really upset her.

Can they do this, especially as she did it working for them.

Her work mates had told her to claim, but she refused saying it was an accident and no-one was to blame. Loyalty eh!!'"


If the accident was at work........

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Quote: Standee "My understanding is that a) her boss is a nice person and b) she should fight this.

Is she a member of Unison, one of few occasions where they might actually add value if she is'"


She is in Unison. She is still a bit shell shocked after the call.

My company monitor sickness and have a warning system, but not for a clear case of accident as is this case, its more for patterns of sickness behaviour that are dodgy.

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Quote: Dally "If the accident was at work........'"


Not everyone is corrupt Dally. Plenty of witnesses and immediate transfer to hospital, you read too many right wing rags.

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Quote: rover49 "She is in Unison. She is still a bit shell shocked after the call.

My company monitor sickness and have a warning system, but not for a clear case of accident as is this case, its more for patterns of sickness behaviour that are dodgy.'"


Your company probably uses the "Bradford Score" or similar, which is a calculation on duration and frequency, one lot of seven days gets a lower score than seven incidences of a single day (as 7 days straight is more likely to be a genuine illness).

Has she had a formal warning in writing, a hearing of any kind, she should look to take someone in to her return to work interview as well.

If she can't get a Union Rep to do it PM me, I know a couple of people who might be able to help, I assume we're talking either HCC or EROYC?

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Quote: Standee "Your company probably uses the "Bradford Score" or similar, which is a calculation on duration and frequency, one lot of seven days gets a lower score than seven incidences of a single day (as 7 days straight is more likely to be a genuine illness).

Has she had a formal warning in writing, a hearing of any kind, she should look to take someone in to her return to work interview as well.

If she can't get a Union Rep to do it PM me, I know a couple of people who might be able to help, I assume we're talking either HCC or EROYC?'"


He phoned her to tell her of the formal warning, nothing in writing yet. Hopefully Unison will provide the representation, if not I will PM you, thanks for the offer. Your assumption on employer is correct.

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Quote: rover49 "Not everyone is corrupt Dally. Plenty of witnesses and immediate transfer to hospital, you read too many right wing rags.'"

Surely it went in an [iaccident book[/i on site, at work?

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Quote: rover49 "He phoned her to tell her of the formal warning, nothing in writing yet. Hopefully Unison will provide the representation, if not I will PM you, thanks for the offer. Your assumption on employer is correct.'"


There's a few odd things here.

A formal warning can only be made in written form, her manager (we'll say "he" as an assumption) may have decided to issue a verbal warning, but he cannot do that without the HR departments backing. It sounds to me like "he" is on very dodgy ground, especially for an accident at work (was she working at height or anything)?

we'll put club allegiances aside for this one I think.....

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Quote: WIZEB "Surely it went in an [iaccident book[/i on site, at work?'"


Indeed, the manager in question may come to regret this action, both Councils are facing cuts and looking for redundancies, someone acting outside the HR policy is one of the easiest targets going, especially if they didn't consult HR, and if they did and HR got it wrong (as they so often do) then there might be two birds with one stone.

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Quote: WIZEB "Surely it went in an [iaccident book[/i on site, at work?'"


Of course.

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Quote: rover49 "Of course.'"


Have you got an e-mail address for her employers HR department?
I might put an early application in for her bosses job. icon_biggrin.gif

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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



Quote: Standee "There's a few odd things here.

A formal warning can only be made in written form, her manager (we'll say "he" as an assumption) may have decided to issue a verbal warning, but he cannot do that without the HR departments backing. It sounds to me like "he" is on very dodgy ground, especially for an accident at work (was she working at height or anything)?

we'll put club allegiances aside for this one I think.....'"


I can only assume he rang to inform her and any paperwork is flying on its way. I thought it odd, I would have expected an 'informal' chat as to how she was doing etc. She was alighting an employers vehicle and slipped on ice.

After Sunday night, I haven't a clue what your on about !!!!! icon_smile.gif

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Was a Disciplinary hearing held?
Was she invited to attend?
Was she been given the right to have a representative?
Was she been given the right to appeal?













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Quote: rover49 "I can only assume he rang to inform her and any paperwork is flying on its way. I thought it odd, I would have expected an 'informal' chat as to how she was doing etc. She was alighting an employers vehicle and slipped on ice.

After Sunday night, I haven't a clue what your on about !!!!!
just keep me posted, I am out of the Country from Friday until March 11th but I'll pick up PM's when I can if we can't sort it before then.

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