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As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet. What the BBC and their pink partners fail to grasp is that, to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, not least the way gay people are treated in a liberal democracy.

I know most of you will not agree with me, but after Leveson, Saville and now this, is it finally time to bin the BBC? If not, can it be morally justified for Christian license-payers to refuse to pay up?

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Quote: kirkstaller "www.christian.org.uk/news/bbc-uses-easter-show-about-crucifixion-to-push-gay-agenda/

***Please can we avoid the usual mud-slinging?***

As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet. What the BBC and their pink partners fail to grasp is that, to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, not least the way gay people are treated in a liberal democracy.

I know most of you will not agree with me, but after Leveson, Saville and now this, is it finally time to bin the BBC? If not, can it be morally justified for Christian license-payers to refuse to pay up?'"


Thanks for starting with the mud slinging.

It illustrates – once more – how fundamentalists like you want to have their cake and eat it. You, Sir, are a hypocrite.

But let's make a couple of points, though.

1) If there hadn't been a "kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus", then you wouldn't have met Jesus and he wouldn't have saved you. I know that it's trying that we have to put up with your idiocy and bigotry on a regular basis, but suggesting that that's a direct result of "the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet" is a tad harsh on yourself.

And since God created everything in the full and certain knowledge of what would happen, then he also created that "kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus". Indeed, if Pilate had freed Jesus, it would have been against God's plan.

2) "to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, not least the way gay people are treated in a liberal democracy."

This is both yet another illustration of your bigotry – not least because Christians per se would say no such thing.

And if you don't want to pay the licence fee – bin your television. It would allow you more time for prayer and [iBible[/i reading.

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Quote: kirkstaller "www.christian.org.uk/news/bbc-uses-easter-show-about-crucifixion-to-push-gay-agenda/

***Please can we avoid the usual mud-slinging?***

As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet. What the BBC and their pink partners fail to grasp is that, to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, not least the way gay people are treated in a liberal democracy.

I know most of you will not agree with me, but after Leveson, Saville and now this, is it finally time to bin the BBC? If not, can it be morally justified for Christian license-payers to refuse to pay up?'"


You lot can start moaning when the BBC start broadcasting a homo lecture on the radio every morning or a bunch of poofs & lezzas singing in praise of same-sex shagging every Sunday evening

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Quote: kirkstaller "www.christian.org.uk/news/bbc-uses-easter-show-about-crucifixion-to-push-gay-agenda/

***Please can we avoid the usual mud-slinging?***

As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet. What the BBC and their pink partners fail to grasp is that, to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, not least the way gay people are treated in a liberal democracy.

I know most of you will not agree with me, but after Leveson, Saville and now this, is it finally time to bin the BBC? If not, can it be morally justified for Christian license-payers to refuse to pay up?'"


You are right, I don't agree with you ... not about the greatest act of evil anyway.
I'm thinking of the various acts by Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin etc etc .

Your use of the words "BBC and their pink partners" as a pejorative is noted.

But, finally, to the point ... what you fail to grasp is that your idea of blasphemy doesn't govern what others think.

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Quote: El Barbudo "You are right, I don't agree with you ... not about the greatest act of evil anyway.
I'm thinking of the various acts by Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin etc etc .'"


I disagree, and let me tell you why. Whilst the atrocities committed by the above despots were no doubt evil, the victims of such crimes were not as perfect or as good as Jesus - the most perfect thing there is, was and ever will be. He joined us for a brief 33 years. He was hunted at birth and mocked in death. Why? Because the human race is a wicked, vengeful, self-righteous race of people.

Quote: El Barbudo "Your use of the words "BBC and their pink partners" as a pejorative is noted.'"


It actually wasn’t meant as a pejorative. I was stressing the BBC’s love-in with gay rights campaigners.

Quote: El Barbudo "But, finally, to the point ... what you fail to grasp is that your idea of blasphemy doesn't govern what others think.'"


I understand that that is the reality, but why should Christian license-fee payers pay for mockery of the most evil act ever committed?

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Quote: kirkstaller "

I understand that that is the reality, but why should Christian license-fee payers pay for mockery of the most evil act ever committed?'"


The same reason non Christians pay the license fee even though Songs of Praise is on every Sunday evening, the difference being, we live and let live and don't complain, we use the "off" button instead.

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Quote: kirkstaller "I disagree, and let me tell you why. Whilst the atrocities committed by the above despots were no doubt evil, the victims of such crimes were not as perfect or as good as Jesus - the most perfect thing there is, was and ever will be. He joined us for a brief 33 years. He was hunted at birth and mocked in death. Why? Because the human race is a wicked, vengeful, self-righteous race of people...'"


Even within the 'logic' of your own belief system, these things happened because God ordained them. If the "human race is a wicked, vengeful, self-righteous", that's because God created it that way.

Your self-hatred is showing. You may well be able to find help for that.

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Quote: kirkstaller "I disagree, and let me tell you why. Whilst the atrocities committed by the above despots were no doubt evil, the victims of such crimes were not as perfect or as good as Jesus - the most perfect thing there is, was and ever will be. He joined us for a brief 33 years. He was hunted at birth and mocked in death. ...'"

Ah right, I wasn't aware that the worth of the person murdered made the crime more heinous.

Quote: kirkstaller "... Why? Because the human race is a wicked, vengeful, self-righteous race of people...'"

Hmm, OK, and made in the same image as ....?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Ah right, I wasn't aware that the worth of the person murdered made the crime more heinous.'"


Of course it does.

Quote: El Barbudo "Hmm, OK, and made in the same image as ....?'"


We are made in the image of God.

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Quote: kirkstaller "As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil...?'"

You didn't see Vanessa Feltz dressed as Cher on Saturday night did you? That is what I thought the thread title was referring to. You can't poke out your Mind's Eye, unfortunately!

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Quote: kirkstaller " ... the human race is a wicked, vengeful, self-righteous race of people. ...'"

Quote: kirkstaller "... We are made in the image of God.'"


... and we are supposed to venerate this deity who is wicked, vengeful and self-righteous?
I'll pass on that, thanks.

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Quote: kirkstaller "Of course it does...'"

Does that apply to mortals as well as deities?

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Can I just check,
this is indignant anger about a report about something that may happen in the future?

Right, I'm in. Who's dishing out the pitchforks and can I bring a burning brand on the Outrage Bus?

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 Sat 31st Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
06:00
Parramatta
v
St.George
08:30
Dolphins
v
Brisbane
10:35
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
       League One 2024-R22
14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
Brisbane
v
Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
11:00
Souths
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Tue 6th Aug
SL 2 Wigan28-6Leigh
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 20 523 264 259 32
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 20 398 314 84 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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