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Our government which props up half our banks on our money and companies like G4S has now sold, on our behalf, 632 Lloyds Bank banks to the Co-Op bank for peanuts. Co-op apparently paying £350M up front and another £400M over the next 15 years in preference to another offer of £800M upfront and more over a shorter time period than the Co-Op offer. So, we prop up the bank and then we subsidise it's sale (and so lose more) to a Co-Operative organisation. I cannot work out whether this is communism or reverse communism or just plain insanity. Can someone explain it to me?

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You have a weird sense of what communism is.

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Quote: John_D "You have a weird sense of what communism is.'"


He has no sense of what communism is.

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Quote: Mintball "He has no sense of what communism is.'"


Have you though?

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Yes.

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I think its an ace deal to an ace company, in fact yesterday when I heard the news I applied to open an account with the Co-op (yes really), like all banks though they tend to hide the fact that you really don't have to pay for their current accounts which I was a bit disappointed with.

Anyway - I buy my gas and electric from the co-op now, and will be banking some of my income with them too, shortly.


I'm a right commie bas'tad me.

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Quote: JerryChicken "I think its an ace deal to an ace company, in fact yesterday when I heard the news I applied to open an account with the Co-op (yes really), like all banks though they tend to hide the fact that you really don't have to pay for their current accounts which I was a bit disappointed with.

Anyway - I buy my gas and electric from the co-op now, and will be banking some of my income with them too, shortly.


I'm a right commie bas'tad me.'"

Same here, a couple of months ago I moved all my accounts away from the Halifax to the Co-op and Skipton Building Society.
Halifax closed down my 2 nearest branches, c0cked up a previous transfer to one of their pay accounts, massively raised the interest on my credit card, stopped my debit card while I was away on holiday despite having told them where I was going, and just generally been sh|t and unhelpful.
So I thought I'd let my socialist instincts take over for a change.

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Quote: Him "... stopped my debit card while I was away on holiday despite having told them where I was going ...'"


Oh, I love this one!

We had something similar happen some years ago. They then told us that we should have been telling them when we went to Furrin Land.

We said they'd never told us we had to tell them.

They said that they couldn't send out letter because those letter might have been intercepted. icon_eek.gif

You could not make it.

We are no longer with the Halifax. We moved to the Nationwide (a mutual) where our mortgage is.

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Quote: Dally "Our government which props up half our banks on our money and companies like G4S has now sold, on our behalf, 632 Lloyds Bank banks to the Co-Op bank for peanuts. Co-op apparently paying £350M up front and another £400M over the next 15 years in preference to another offer of £800M upfront and more over a shorter time period than the Co-Op offer. So, we prop up the bank and then we subsidise it's sale (and so lose more) to a Co-Operative organisation. I cannot work out whether this is communism or reverse communism or just plain insanity. Can someone explain it to me?'"

Let me think now ... which banks would I trust?
Mutuals of course.

But, of course, in your book, Mutual = Communist.
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Dally is right the sooner the government is voted out the better. Lets have an election soon and we can remove this hopeless Coalition and bring back in a Labour government.

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Quote: Mintball "Yes.'"


I haven't, so can you please provide me with a brief explanation so that I do not make silly comments on the subject in future?

Thanks.

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Probably be easier if you just didn't comment on anything.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Let me think now ... which banks would I trust?
Mutuals of course.

But, of course, in your book, Mutual

I think you missed my point entirely. We had a largely publicy owned bank, which has been 'given' away on the cheap to some form of mutual organisation. So, the general public lose out (for the second time) in favour of the members of the Co-Op.

Incidentally, the co-op bank is not very good. My partner has been shouting at them all week for taking money from a bank account and then providing him with false informatio on the matter; my wife keeps the records of a charity and they asked for information unnecessarily (and back-tracked when challenged) and I have a credit card and have had words them in the past for pointlessly blocking transactions. Accordingly, I very rarely use the card because I can never trust them to honour transactions. They are my only 3 experiences of them and so as you can imagine I am not impressed!

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Quote: Mintball "He has no sense of what communism is.'"

I stand corrected *tips hat*

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Quote: Dally "I think you missed my point entirely. We had a largely publicy owned bank, which has been 'given' away on the cheap to some form of mutual organisation. So, the general public lose out (for the second time) in favour of the members of the Co-Op.

Incidentally, the co-op bank is not very good. My partner has been shouting at them all week for taking money from a bank account and then providing him with false informatio on the matter; my wife keeps the records of a charity and they asked for information unnecessarily (and back-tracked when challenged) and I have a credit card and have had words them in the past for pointlessly blocking transactions. Accordingly, I very rarely use the card because I can never trust them to honour transactions. They are my only 3 experiences of them and so as you can imagine I am not impressed!'"

In the Which? survey of customer satisfaction, the Co-op's Smile online bank came second (89%) and the Co-op Bank came third (86%).
But we can't believe them, can we, they only had sample sizes of 570 and 604, so let's just go by what you say.
I mean, you were spot on with NHS satisfaction rates.


p.s. First place went to First Direct (93%), whilst Lloyds trailed way back with 58%.

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20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
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