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| The leader of the free world has now decided to tackle immigration by separating children from their parents and keeping them in cages.
Under what circumstances can this ever be acceptable and why isn't there worldwide condemnation for the world's newest fascist dictator, who has also pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council.
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| Quote: "The leader of the free world has now decided to tackle immigration by separating children from their parents and keeping them in cages.
Under what circumstances can this ever be acceptable and why isn't there worldwide condemnation for the world's newest fascist dictator, who has also pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council.
As soon as i heard this was happening, flashes of the film Schindlers List came to mind. A very dark day for a nation who fought against this 75-80 years ago
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| Quote: "The leader of the free world has now decided to tackle immigration by separating children from their parents and keeping them in cages.
Under what circumstances can this ever be acceptable and why isn't there worldwide condemnation for the world's newest fascist dictator, who has also pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council.
you mean a President enforcing the laws he was elected to enforce?
And the UN HRC are corrupt as heck.
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| Quote: "you mean a President enforcing the laws he was elected to enforce?
And the UN HRC are corrupt as heck.'"
There is a world of difference in enforcing strict immigration controls and putting young children in wire cages.
As for the UN Human rights, although they may not be perfect, I'll take them over a power crazed leader (Trump) all day long.
If any of America's (or The West's) "enemies" were doing this, Trump would be calling them crazed lunatics and wanting to drop bomb on them and your agreement with THIS POLICY, really does make you quite special.
There is NO justification, in a civilised world for such treatment, get a grip.
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| Quote: "There is a world of difference in enforcing strict immigration controls and putting young children in wire cages.
My opinion differs to yours, I think Mr Trump is a strong leader, not a precious little flower.
Believe what you want from the propaganda press.
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| Quote: "My opinion differs to yours, I think Mr Trump is a strong leader, not a precious little flower.
Believe what you want from the propaganda press.'"
Propaganda press ??
I suppose it's just more fake news ? and yet "we" cry foul when our citizens are poorly treated abroad.
America and it's Leaders need to be "The bigger man" and lead by example and not lower themselves to the level that Trump seems happy to go to.
A clever leader can reach their objectives without resorting to such actions.
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| Quote: "Propaganda press ??
I suppose it's just more fake news ? and yet "we" cry foul when our citizens are poorly treated abroad.
America and it's Leaders need to be "The bigger man" and lead by example and not lower themselves to the level that Trump seems happy to go to.
A clever leader can reach their objectives without resorting to such actions.'"
As I say, we disagree. Far left, far too embroiled in the 70's, lamenting the railways, Rover, Coal Pits, The Stone, Iron and Bronze Age, there are no Wooly Mammoths, fossils consigned to there place in history.
The WORLD is changing, keep apace.
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| Quote: "As I say, we disagree. Far left, far too embroiled in the 70's, lamenting the railways, Rover, Coal Pits, The Stone, Iron and Bronze Age, there are no Wooly Mammoths, fossils consigned to there place in history.
The WORLD is changing, keep apace.'"
Keep pace, it appears that you are the one wanting to go back into the dark ages when tyrants were allowed to do whatever they choose, without reproach.
It's the silent masses that give dictators their strength and it's oly when enough people are brave enouth to speak out that their power will wane.
So, you keep nodding you're head an allow people who may not be able to defend them selves to be victimised.
Keep your eyes closed and keep on crossing to the other side of the road.
You'll be just fine, until you actually want some help and then it may be you that is crying in a darkened room where no one can hear your screams
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| Quote: "Keep pace, it appears that you are the one wanting to go back into the dark ages when tyrants were allowed to do whatever they choose, without reproach.
It's the silent masses that give dictators their strength and it's oly when enough people are brave enouth to speak out that their power will wane.
So, you keep nodding you're head an allow people who may not be able to defend them selves to be victimised.
Keep your eyes closed and keep on crossing to the other side of the road.
You'll be just fine, until you actually want some help and then it may be you that is crying in a darkened room where no one can hear your screams
You can try and patronise me all you want, like you can keep defending everything the MAJORITY find unwelcome.
My eyes are WIDE OPEN, but keep trying to belittle me, it's funny watching a sad old soviet wasting his final keystrokes.
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| Quote: "You can try and patronise me all you want, like you can keep defending everything the MAJORITY find unwelcome.
My eyes are WIDE OPEN, but keep trying to belittle me, it's funny watching a sad old soviet wasting his final keystrokes.'"
What am I defending that "the majority find unwelcome"
Are you talking Mexican immigrants into the USA or, something else ?
I'm liking the "old soviet"
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| Quote: "What am I defending that "the majority find unwelcome"
Are you talking Mexican immigrants into the USA or, something else ?
I'm liking the "old soviet"
Glad I raised a smile, we have different views, no reason to fall out.
I think Mr Trump is just what we need, a lunatiic to push the button and kick us off from day dot.
He is, without doubt, an idiot. As was Blair, Brown, Starlin, Hitler, Thatcher, go back as far as you want.
People who crave power do not do it for the "common good"
That is the problem with the internet, consistent interface problems between the chair & keyboard.
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| Quote: "Glad I raised a smile, we have different views, no reason to fall out.
I think Mr Trump is just what we need, a lunatiic to push the button and kick us off from day dot.
He is, without doubt, an idiot. As was Blair, Brown, Starlin, Hitler, Thatcher, go back as far as you want.
People who crave power do not do it for the "common good"
That is the problem with the internet, consistent interface problems between the chair & keyboard.'"
Go on then Standee, give us the answers.
Comparing that list of politicians / leaders / megalomaniacs / mass murderers / heroes / peolple who DSM haven't yet managed to bracket is a pretty bold statement.
What is your " Day Dot?"
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| Looks like external pressure has actually had an effect on the American President and he's had second thoughts about caging young children.
About time.
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| Quote: "Looks like external pressure has actually had an effect on the American President and he's had second thoughts about caging young children.
About time.'" Do we think those who supported this will suddenly say what a great decision it was to end it?
This current lot on the far right are so in awe of their leader that they bend themselves in knots trying to agree with every one of his contradictory statements and decisions.
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| Quote: "Do we think those who supported this will suddenly say what a great decision it was to end it?
This current lot on the far right are so in awe of their leader that they bend themselves in knots trying to agree with every one of his contradictory statements and decisions.'"
Trump is a dangerous man, no doubt at all.
His style of poking the hornets nest and then "dealing with consequences" will eventually lead to a problem that none of us want.
He seems to be relying totally on the "no one will dare to challenge America" style and he may be right.
However, if he keeps on long enough, there will be a leader in another country that tries to hit back.
Unfortunately, Mexico is in no position to do anything but can you imagine the outcry is his Guantanamo style immigration camps were set up elsewhere and by someone that Trump didn't like. It doesn't bear thinking about.
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